Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91300 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 17945 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2016 23:28:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Feb 2016 23:28:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=colinodell@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=colinodell@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: colinodell@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.50 mail-oi0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.50] ([209.85.218.50:35651] helo=mail-oi0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 09/15-27267-A9356C65 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 18:28:27 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x21so1003090oix.2 for ; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:28:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GGKVHcS+4utHAo2aMgQRGQzxlZIkb5+Ipn+clLAEdoU=; b=JAyCZG9Z6FX7CM0vbxFlIwNP0QYLwLpaB3yONNbYnzvpvg9krI/v1/Mm/sXrQIWahJ MyLyRpzvYO71EnNU5zVw3+hm2vSTqtIvuXBEfjMxeWekGUNsYNR7DV7ZuKJGSvkUFpsf sqt0yR/N1Nn9jq0P+yHX1xX8AOfYizilFApDIe3OpZhSvfkauHPPklFgkug3Y2xhhAWz O7GwXUxwpc+RFjMgL3BxVz2jL3GxeY0TJP0zCU8bcvhaOzGFDJWkbC5a/YTL2mSn7B3b rFGtoChMTpxanyPhc5CKZ0/im0GWxeccAX9UC1GHmFEvqximFJhhMZVjXRa5EYKC6z4N zDOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=GGKVHcS+4utHAo2aMgQRGQzxlZIkb5+Ipn+clLAEdoU=; b=Ue2wkR5c75djMq65BzzgQ1RR0IRroriLUGIos3Uih+7fy3PAfLBrYL5WEeADOXPMap QZO+pK9aNzuNDU0DOSHjpCHoaFWrtV4dGSURxVng66Y9VOmvIKMdSYUb+ZxxQv0+XJPm MXXMBcld5AJPh7w6qzmnRG5bynCiIiVmJuPxS0wQFfjbat0ds/FAbR366Jht34uLJXrV OxCQCOtBuM/m/KMEjsPbb7xP7lXe+bdj7NgGPArrUeZTSDwGJrXz9kDAKSdhbC/b/NM0 QypiTdZVuCEzBp5lwMSoUObYlzVqdWRsYlItiPOFCJR1uwJ+x/ZjF5tK8i1POx/kNlIf lyYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQdd4t/s2AYR7U8hKe5RlqcT12uXd7D4Xda1yN7kUoWulQv3FHsmjU7zT1gRbUrlQnkzAbM55/MQhEtNg== X-Received: by 10.202.182.11 with SMTP id g11mr8310008oif.133.1455838104202; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:28:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20.E2.62769.79C16C65@pb1.pair.com> <8B0196E0-D76C-49D4-904A-7FBA9B549AFB@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <8B0196E0-D76C-49D4-904A-7FBA9B549AFB@zend.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:28:14 +0000 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113caa440d36ba052c13b9a2 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC Proposal] var keyword deprecation/removal From: colinodell@gmail.com ("Colin O'Dell") --001a113caa440d36ba052c13b9a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think it's a drop in the bucket compare to new features we're adding > plenty of on every version. These make the language a lot more complex > than var being an alias to public (not even different syntax). > Very true. I'm not proposing this because it's a great new feature. But has this legacy functionality outlived its original purpose? If so, maybe it's time to start phasing it out. Sure, it's a small drop in the bucket of improvements, but it's still a drop nonetheless. To me, var falls squarely in the bucket of "no strong reason to remove". > I agree 100%. But is there a strong reason to keep it forever, especially considering its decline in usage? Perhaps by targeting it for removal in 8.0 we can mitigate the impact of such a BC break while taking one small step in improving the language over time. Colin --001a113caa440d36ba052c13b9a2--