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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Contributor Guidelines, and Updates to Code of
 Conduct progress
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

Sammy Kaye Powers wrote on 10/02/2016 23:01:
> Thanks so much for taking this up Derick! :)
>
> The mission points could be reworked a bit.
>
>> * Make everybody happier, especially those responsible for developing PHP itself.
> This has a slight insinuation that non-internals/new people are
> annoying to the core PHP team. Also, what makes one happy really
> varies from person to person so this should be more specific. This
> point should be moved to the bottom of the list and read:
>
> "To level the expectations of everyone involved in order to reduce
> unnecessary friction and improve the overall efficiency of the PHP
> internals community".

This sounds too much like a business's PR-approved Mission Statement to 
me, "leverage the synergies of our contributors to deliver value while 
maintaining ... what was I talking about again?". I take your point 
about it sounding a bit exclusionary, but no reason it can't be kept 
snappy and informal:

* "Make us all happier when we're working together to improve PHP."


>> * Help in making sure we all use our time more efficiently.
> How about: "To create an efficient and inviting collaboration
> environment" (This should be the first point)

This seems to de-emphasise the "efficiency", and couch it in unnecessary 
formalities. I'm not sure what's wrong with the current wording.


>> * Prevent you from making a fool of yourself in public.
> This one sounds angry. :) This would be better: "To lower the learning
> curve for new potential contributors by aggregating tribal knowledge"

I think it's supposed to be jokey. Maybe the "you" could be "us" to be a 
bit more humble? ("Prevent us making fools of ourselves in public.")


>> * Increase the general level of goodwill on planet Earth.
> That seems a bit out of scope. :) I'd just remove this point.

Again, I think you're taking it too seriously. This isn't intended to 
read like a contract. I take this point to mean "we're not just telling 
you to do these things because we like making up rules, we're trying to 
make everyone happier".


> Lastly the overall tone of the document could be bit more inviting,
> especially since I can see this document being the entry point for new
> contributors getting involved.

The changes you've suggested above seem to me to completely contradict 
this one - you've suggested extremely formal and verbose wording to 
replace punchy, jokey, points. It maybe needs a bit more "us" rather 
than "you", but ultimately, it's a bunch of dos and don'ts, so there's 
only so far it can go in placating a nervous reader.

Regards,
-- 
Rowan Collins
[IMSoP]