Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91166 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95359 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2016 15:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 2016 15:43:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.44 mail-wm0-f44.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.44] ([74.125.82.44:35875] helo=mail-wm0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 36/6A-39202-E390AB65 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 10:43:58 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id p63so163963098wmp.1 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:43:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t5cyWJ6PUFU/KZe7/+7Injhc6aB/70b7UCXGd9fz5hg=; b=PEpRw/9y7IMwt8dHR3QHnSD5v/2ViXe6xLsql8MeSS6TyOLwt8b0iGFn3VhqKP/Jrv 7vgspWYNVSxa5/jfFz4h7h8Jj2MIUDHSybpfWJKvJyTL2buPq6zpWngg09vv6+rIRDsL OcV0zl5Db1pv22AVg1tGzeXa8ZXrxRo7Q5DH2fM31htq41YkqOlBT9gm3skwrntGvWyt jDgbFtFw4vUJCHOyclMQXCvu258LjfDj1P33zVhrbV5l95g9655Kc+ORDhYm1+WGE1ns Z6iIU+rPyQkKkR46ZD89UNT+4lZRmiKxwhPm7i4Y0LHRvkvlbddCtbPo6z30HB51PV3y wV0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t5cyWJ6PUFU/KZe7/+7Injhc6aB/70b7UCXGd9fz5hg=; b=fOIrfiMVkHBpUlbB+ardPTB6tk0LtmBmHHAdVZ3BMPPkwiK12aW6ghCDCjm8PqjM/H pTrj6wq0RM+e9CU3rcWyRnaVrApBwDdeRA6JMVfDzberBjkVBCnfkWbg4CyLd0EpYmL4 KPd96q+3uu7N/mryubOoXHNUaWQiPU3LoO+MMKf8FmaaK5rryQncdpGbVpEuRAXUaTWR gu2/p+7mzwybaQLrUIaBm7FJz9G1s8SaEeUYr1R1sHjV+TbFJNa3fxI1rTFoV8CzvEKo 5o5S17FSd9tVbSJwgNGrYc5pdk3m7LNT9DRKRklWmicsj+YEmKL0iiuThJ9ulJxL0o9a Lbxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORL77tkXRJWtTIkLqv3FkIoEkhzPI+RJlqTMw3aLVr0MB1kdUk4ZP9HSroralvt3g== X-Received: by 10.28.176.133 with SMTP id z127mr5830609wme.22.1455032635559; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.152] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t12sm159wmt.20.2016.02.09.07.43.54 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:43:54 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <56B9F00B.5020305@mprelu.de> <56B9F865.5000005@gmail.com> <56B9FDE1.7070109@lsces.co.uk> <56B9FF5F.3060103@gmail.com> <56BA066B.4040807@lsces.co.uk> Message-ID: <56BA08E0.2070403@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 15:42:24 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56BA066B.4040807@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Contributor Guidelines, and Updates to Code of Conduct progress From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Lester Caine wrote on 09/02/2016 15:31: > In the context of policing CoC 'infringements' then a threat of some > action should be enough to defuse the situation. Agreed. > There is no need to > 'settle out of court', but my point was more one of the feeling these > days that "out of court settlement" is little to do with what is right > and more to do with what costs less without actually solving the > problem. The aim of any 'stick' should be to get at the truth rather > than pressure one party to settle for the others opinion ... A fair point. If the process is perceived as biased, or intimidating for one side or the other, it would have a chilling effect rather than a calming one. In my mind, that makes defining due process even more important, to reassure everyone that the intimidation is not intended. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]