Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91164 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91341 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2016 15:36:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 2016 15:36:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.180 mail-ob0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.180] ([209.85.214.180:35666] helo=mail-ob0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3E/79-39202-4870AB65 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 10:36:37 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id xk3so188396678obc.2 for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:36:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=r/lbgqyAnXn19LAwcq9aDtjaJi6VY6FoRVT+qO/eQrI=; b=S7eWFKKM+0cblaKlj6bxnf40CLdHxxsiPvN1n0hh1WJloW4WXufrT77avV6NJTA6vz azFawYoE+V6rJC+nn3Kr30x4pQ3OSBR//qpIBgc2SYI8oZ9xz0JrTR9Ywk9FvdCsnoSz LvQLUjXkjVEc9WilGdPds6wemo0/n9+zqJLyZ34KzHk5I6ZvxcAS+Zl8f3jawhU5jqr5 9wBb0agpWFwY6HDKj1GWLY3tA9x2XjhHPsi/Rw6HxvBJOgXr2fiESSMSPpy2lT3NoJVA foP30GzGnhnlIQCdBqMfkCkAtNn0NYJ0pcBglBJLxEwsmGd2NXMwUgjBsx5vatwzG1eQ pwMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=r/lbgqyAnXn19LAwcq9aDtjaJi6VY6FoRVT+qO/eQrI=; b=cKYF7uvtGfL6NiPhJ6gyTFuGYt4hHGmUK9Vim3jSRA3KsgEhC8fB+0wg01ADh4W9Fa +aRO21EABgU4/KVhJPG6awTR90mmMbousv3M7SU6WNLCtqCvCAMAwZOauHQb5D1fE0sP Qm92ZYcxIdcn7yfsFCnkwKy68OjP3VKVWDQzJTCXqizyPvkQIpUm5tIyTwlAgQ/X0IbT 7hrDtkEqiLhkEQojGi+D6+KvDQgIaIKKwOGEtUD+XYoC/9OPHkj5kT5WURyRQDAdxZnl o7STLWdCN2rS31KmG8fQ9J5uYBeH8Sl/uLz82FxuX+tlgRSRMdvrX4oZqpGoKzoWNAow Zlfw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSSBCb0fe+xPAqT6PNkrdO/vMIQJ2oGqc2d/lIyMZNMqtEPfxlMbR1ER06II9u8zzHVmAk9HHWU4SKv/g== X-Received: by 10.60.128.133 with SMTP id no5mr32187886oeb.9.1455032194477; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:36:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.86.1 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 07:36:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <38.31.07203.2EB94B65@pb1.pair.com> <8E.1A.36326.338F8B65@pb1.pair.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:36:15 -0500 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a7f7816b5d0052b581521 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] Allow specifying keys in list() From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") --047d7b3a7f7816b5d0052b581521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Here is my reasons for no: 1- Non-intuitive behavior 2- Hard to read code, takes more time to understand underlying logic/flow 3- YAANPI => Yet Another Alternate Named Parameters Implementation (when I look at future scope) 4- Most common usage form (first example) still forces you to type almost same amount of logic with less readability and little value Regards, On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Morning internalz, > > As mentioned the future scope stuff is scary, but not enough on it's > own to vote no. > > So I want to vote yes, but I'm just waiting to hear objections from no > voters, in case they thought of something I didn't ... > > Cheers > Joe > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > Hi again, > > > > There's been a lot of No votes on this RFC, but I haven't received much > > feedback as to why. Would any of you mind sharing your reasons, if > > possible? It would be helpful if I knew why people have voted against it, > > as then I might be able to modify the RFC to be more palatable, or > > understand where I went wrong. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> It's been more than two weeks since I first proposed this RFC, and > >> there's no outstanding issues preventing moving towards a vote. There's > >> not yet a language specification patch, but that can be done later. > >> > >> So, I'm opening the vote on this RFC today, 2016-02-05, and it'll close > >> the Sunday after next, 2016-02-14. The vote requires a 2/3 majority as > >> it's a language change. > >> > >> The RFC page is here: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/list_keys > >> > >> Happy voting! > >> > > > > > > -- > > Andrea Faulds > > https://ajf.me/ > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > -- Guilherme Blanco MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com GTalk: guilhermeblanco Toronto - ON/Canada --047d7b3a7f7816b5d0052b581521--