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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:44:25 +0000
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To: Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement
 fornon-"language changes"?
From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka)

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Hi Andrea,

On 30 Jan 2016 21:04, "Andrea Faulds" <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
>
> Hi Jakub,
>
>
> Jakub Zelenka wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Jan 2016 17:35, "Andrea Faulds" <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> The vote on the OpenSSL AEAD RFC[1] has made me question our current RFC
>>
>> process again. Under the Voting RFC[2], "Language changes" (in practice,
>> changes to syntax and semantics) require at least a 2/3 majority to pass
>> when they come to a vote, whereas changes that don't fall under that
>> category require a mere plurality of more Yes votes than No votes, aka
>> "50%+1".
>>>
>>>
>>
>> FYI the OpenSSL AEAD RFC passed 2/3 majority so not sure why it made you
>> question our RFC process... :)
>>
>
> I went and checked again, and it didn't pass by 2/3. It got 7 votes in
favour and 4 against. To have passed by 2/3, the number of Yes votes would
need to be at least double the number of No votes, but the vote totals
didn't meet that. 7:4 is 63.6%, less than 66.6%.

Ah you are right. Was thinking that 60% will do for some reason... :) My
fault, sorry. ;)

It means that I have to be glad that we have 50%+1 in that case. :) But
seriously I think that there wasn't a need for a super majority. It doesn't
have any critical consequences and at least the users will get the features
that they wanted. It would be quite hard to keep the ext updated if we had
to have a super majority for everything IMHO... On the other side you have
got a point. It would probably result in better quality if we required it.
But I don't think we have got so many core ext developers that we can
afford that. It could result in less effort to get anything in which is
certainly not good for core extensions.  That's basically the difference
that I see between the engine and core extension development. The features
are much more important for some extensions so we should be less strict
IMHO.

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