Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:91024 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22220 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2016 19:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2016 19:14:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jakub.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jakub.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jakub.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.53 mail-vk0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.53] ([209.85.213.53:33047] helo=mail-vk0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 98/60-19320-5AB0DA65 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 14:14:46 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id e64so58732866vkg.0 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:14:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WM1lue/ypcp29NrIz50dV/b7ZlP0kPfoI9eDIZqZCGg=; b=raG0f2ThgW4uTZYN0UeL22eYi/LNDID5fnfNoiqrCaOnxWGtWW+Ncza0UBpSCZ3B4S x5lwAHxOf4kqEShJB7Mg+nX/oRIsOVQzznzqj7MxjxfUNWjg6DwiFdYYBJwhB/wjVpM7 QlgCBk3jKpyeX1g73oelf82MjPIiUnP0SdHQJ1nIXCOY0Coxkg64I6Fu4BrjKezDa+sf SFn+Q57J7YAsh+EqswTTFHVUiSU5bAyy0x7dLMMDgusrcJdPZTmJIMF+vSbCzrVrHBnQ zlaoujziiqZpFQ1mCXz1LGBIbGpo1WZLcLrqTz4V0NwgN8DSg4HTqjn1akxVvUKHZxyR a9ZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WM1lue/ypcp29NrIz50dV/b7ZlP0kPfoI9eDIZqZCGg=; b=FsZjMne6bIgwGAPb3Yfaj3IUVDOjCBkJ88s7FNQZhFq9mfMXxfNxscxmuM0TMR9gP8 pf8b6QJJiX1xrMrv3uUNNqKLN0cUo/Pmrd3Nw5VP+TM14iIljgLkrHeCp1MuZMgCYNTa IocwORrCgjOWUxeSdcWrH6SzbbH6qZ6yQ/6tMGUdzu4xWVPtR+8193B52oCCD8mJp819 E+mYNYN7p0kUUZ3frNbDaAL/hSZ7+OHc2+SNAP7xj+i9jXEV3mOGNszgwW7gvIrTyiT1 1ufQw49LfXDC+wf74MHJ7FzKmDHVT0B7AwbjLut+fkwkqXYruig+zwXGI4/wLxcCwGAa 8eaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTw2N1kylEAxQXyihFRCw7HXAoUJt3/q6TRZwdcvQSGZlVkIaX58aJC8pVWhwr6zoZ1a5GEz69oAxFjGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.167.195 with SMTP id q186mr10068842vke.113.1454181283304; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:14:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: jakub.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.31.65.202 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.65.202 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:14:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6F.D4.55829.C14FCA65@pb1.pair.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:14:43 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8N3Xp0IRJKQeBlWWUF8RRyXeF-k Message-ID: To: Joe Constant Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP internals list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11425fbad49a14052a91f649 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"? From: bukka@php.net (Jakub Zelenka) --001a11425fbad49a14052a91f649 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 30 Jan 2016 18:07, "Joe Constant" wrote: > > As someone who has never participated with intervals before and only just recently subscribed to the list, I would like to see a minimum percentage of voting members participating in a vote for something to pass. In my interpretation of the current rules, a measure could pass with only 3 votes cast (2 for / 1 against). In fact, there was a recent proposal that passed with only 11 votes cast. If that few of voting members are participating, maybe the proposal wasn't clear enough (or maybe it's just not needed at all)? Sure you can argue that they had ample time to discuss, but I would say perhaps they just saw no value in it. If a proposal isn't offering enough value for the greater community, maybe it doesn't belong in core and should be either a pecl extension or userland code? > I disagree with this. The fact that not many people voted doesn't mean that the feature is not important. Some RFC are very technical and about specific topics that not many voters is interested in. However it can be important for some users and shouldn't be rejected just because there are not enough votes even if the majority is in favour. It's often a specific feature for extension so moving everything to PECL is not really an option. P.S. Please don't top post... ;) Cheers Jakub --001a11425fbad49a14052a91f649--