Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90916 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20238 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2016 11:47:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2016 11:47:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: peter.e.lind@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.48 mail-wm0-f48.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.48] ([74.125.82.48:33246] helo=mail-wm0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 63/C4-26079-F4B06A65 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 06:47:28 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 123so62084883wmz.0 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 03:47:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=r1l1lfIZsywdRV6iwXTmV3mEMg60taQB5dTu0+nCKy0=; b=OlyW/8hdO0R0EqNLbO272UBosx+26XJJKXyvkgfUjU9V37gtFRwWKWWFTRaASR1CL4 fSbn51iogtg44hHqmdyFIvNa3T1fNIa9JGMhfX+CIgxY86g9xgCBOlkcCltN42JoxmjH 1Kc2co7XQlTgWrTVBxukKIm1rAJ0togwj0v+W03+uPBm2KB0Is+zI5+XQN2bETWofivE q9TN/vHnHxcp0IVxv7j7KArmzcGP0rJeiJsNzGEHBSEBwkaZ8RXa6b+H+NSvmhIgXh+f oaAXiSISOFE8vhlAMNnErgDwK5TV2Gji1KLG8sYLZPlTWY7dJ0TadWIUWsYD4nFM3QPR rZ7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=r1l1lfIZsywdRV6iwXTmV3mEMg60taQB5dTu0+nCKy0=; b=mfASy355LsNaqwYwWDWsNwtJbK2AOmpTsGr3e+xcQpa6hm5BVnZK8ZD3NXZVzjtO4h 9I7sov7Q5Gnl0u1yBTH7FZfb0Wf/T7CUReTq7cbYWHm7RXmwnrYCpZ9d5y8aBOfm0Tmd pDl1clCxSdOu8uy5gqmz9MTapvaG6xfJTD2cYsmCpObyx5Y0B0G1OV6D5Ou5bCCgdpum YRv178msQwaOEn5xgDhd5bqmUFoKjibib/fVhA5yvfvu4eas5khodHP/A8yHBrawpk++ r7DSLr6H0EJsxLYMb229xd78znIAV5LvQSaYrpWK06QAJA0KuLLkCdTquqdsoXt9BvK5 UjQg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOShhnFNYxxY7CCim7aWZpt6IF166lI2JUzTWTWmR0Gyrsvl58hTSpM4DbLS9hQsdxsEerA3QIQzJSe9aA== X-Received: by 10.194.172.228 with SMTP id bf4mr19720816wjc.109.1453722444545; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 03:47:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.41.132 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 03:47:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <56A3F0FA.1050609@mprelu.de> <56A533BC.3060003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:47:04 +0100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Dan Ackroyd , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6246e8e8c8b5052a272172 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Re-proposed] Adopt Code of Conduct From: peter.e.lind@gmail.com (Peter Lind) --047d7b6246e8e8c8b5052a272172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 25 January 2016 at 12:43, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Ackroyd [mailto:danack@basereality.com] > > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:48 AM > > To: Stanislav Malyshev > > Cc: internals@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Re-proposed] Adopt Code of Conduct > > > > Arguing against an RFC is at least as legitimate as arguing for it; > Arguably, even more so - given our bias for status quo. > Put another word - the assumption (at least on the technical side) that > the current situation is good, and there needs to be a very robust case > enjoying widspread support in order to change it. > > Not to nitpick, but if you're biased against status quo, what you need is arguments that remove that bias - not arguments that strengthen it. Your assumption that the status quo is good is a problem if it is a bias. It is not a good thing, on the contrary, it actively prohibits you from considering better alternatives to the status quo. Regards Peter -- WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk CV: careers.stackoverflow.com/peterlind LinkedIn: plind Twitter: kafe15 --047d7b6246e8e8c8b5052a272172--