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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:59:37 +0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Specific incident in relationship to the proposed Code
 of Conduct
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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Hello,

On Jan 24, 2016 9:31 AM, "Stanislav Malyshev" <smalyshev@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi!
.
>
> > day. To state an obvious question - what precisely is the status quo
> > in comparison to a COC? Ad-hoc bans by whoever has access to the ML?
>
> Yes, status quo is pretty much that. IIRC we needed it one, two times
> over 20 years? And it worked fine then. Now, maybe it's time to improve
> on it, but the data so far does not show we're in failure mode.

I think it reasonable to think we don'g have data, at all. Yes we have two
cases which were so obvious that we had to handle them.

For anything we have nothing. This proposal will give us more data about
how we are, how we feel, etc. If anything this is good.

> So I
> find a hard focus on bans be a bit strange - for something that we'd use
> maybe once per 10 years, it gets a lot of time spent on it.

I think we should have used temporary bans a bit more to cool down things.
Including to myself along other.

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