Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90807 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15436 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2016 20:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jan 2016 20:59:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=peter.e.lind@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: peter.e.lind@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.52 mail-wm0-f52.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.52] ([74.125.82.52:37194] helo=mail-wm0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/A1-09073-5C641A65 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:59:49 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id n5so100895571wmn.0 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:59:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=X2GkPw1odP5pKB76b7UqORk+SXtJL0oNSayYr/zQKSI=; b=b0t2HRyGGDsBKZBQcAN7iQxMwSO9p31790vLO/VaJCS1LQhGiq4p0WVdIIYh4CDcie rrZL66vHIjhmbIAoX9fHg/ikP0KmDSRuyjTNcOiM0+WrwnhcoaVdbquMGn0NEMr4xQi7 UIeexAqKVSeoTCdlPA1KMVhevGUHUcsfgULgCyx/yzvbUN5kVS3a2T82N+5Yvpu+ET1/ cbh6MX7MK80W3VDD3Fruhy307AOU+Tdz2xZ9iNVzOd03czbadv0IDn4BMjpURbHzLsMX 1/Hr2yv8yQQeF54foGPMX3cT3cfCk+m14QA8tX0QP7+uz1+oGOkyamhRylCZmvHoFtcC GRuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=X2GkPw1odP5pKB76b7UqORk+SXtJL0oNSayYr/zQKSI=; b=jkJvq5cBzVbtOWHEMao411nJF0dIr/Ecqr7N6mSEbYWfuJyVQRjFqc8M81v/H345vy aUIq2k5L6gMV2I2i5n3wPCZDM9WEpUnbqpp0Knaw5PBfs20jQdBHhSaIwFQbLYIxhvAM E/u684Gqom1wzCInEwV3OpqpDhYRz4/qL2VQmfWddCx9jVZi+n8ik+goE6f37wg0z1ko LwRtv3kIUhILSJpc8vMjHkfabkH9RDgZbhurVapn6ZycNqJBsHoBOFq4w/+ClQ1F1yPa Rh2NUx5MsD6fbWHYH/T6uW4yFN1BU3E8y2XBxeMOORVYubTBegckLNQN/qWHxeVBU17Z buqA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn6snDfEPZokUZB5JQIYP2HsN6mHc5HUN8wAQk9d7GrtjjCGzgb3psup7pE+7B8qL5IQKVroBDjCEcTwmYcCFyaWx/yCw== X-Received: by 10.194.172.228 with SMTP id bf4mr51130718wjc.109.1453409986584; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:59:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.41.132 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:59:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <59.F0.09073.49041A65@pb1.pair.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:59:26 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ronald Chmara Cc: Flyingmana , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6246e8f6a5810529de617f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Handling of withdrawn RFCs From: peter.e.lind@gmail.com (Peter Lind) --047d7b6246e8f6a5810529de617f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 21 January 2016 at 21:53, Ronald Chmara wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Flyingmana > wrote: > > An RFC could still be valuable for the project, even if the original > > author leaved, so taking it over should be possible. And it should not > > be painful in any way. > > Would we need some rules in case multiple people want to take it over, > > or should we say the first one wins? > > Is there any way to abuse the taking over of an withdrawn RFC? > > Hypothetically: > > An RFC being used primarily for ongoing debate/argument/trolling > purposes could live indefinitely, generating hundreds, or thousands, > of messages, and changesets/PR's, and list churn, in the name of > "making sure an issue is adequately discussed and resolved". > > Even as individual trolls, marks, and sockpuppets were knocked down, > new ones could pick up the mantle of "but we're discussing important > things, here!", and continue the loop, only finally exhausting the > suite of RFC mechanisms all of the trolls/marks/puppets finally gave > up, or were someho0w being administratively prohibited from all future > participation. > > Which, if the PHP email lists were an endless trolling/argument/debate > forum like twitter or reddit, would be completely appropriate. > > This is all hypothetical, of course. > > This thread being about withdrawn/re-proposed RFCs, how is that comment relevant? Seeing as anyone wanting to debate/argument/troll indefinitely can do so using their own RFC - or, for that matter, without an RFC. Regards Peter -- WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk CV: careers.stackoverflow.com/peterlind LinkedIn: plind Twitter: kafe15 --047d7b6246e8f6a5810529de617f--