Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90806 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13531 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2016 20:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jan 2016 20:53:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ronabop@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ronabop@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ronabop@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.53 mail-lf0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.53] ([209.85.215.53:34302] helo=mail-lf0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B3/51-09073-34541A65 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:53:24 -0500 Received: by mail-lf0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 17so34722907lfz.1 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:53:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OeCkb9eo9HRSiRavpsORFiHQ6onzUbSzUazr1PND4Cg=; b=aegRP/ssonEsZ38/u3+reQfSsDlnSvfNo6WafT56HsiIzvNCzL12Fy0ScUiJMZuS2/ G2Ym/z+/C7CbqIKaaDdw6+8G+6R4z1Os0LTJx8b49gP4oduN+6cAHLVQzPk+EZSn+UE7 iic5LBnOzgRYf/w7T7nBucNd7ctgShQRyKulTKlMMfWSYdnajTUZ/XL9VRrkKjKRo6tB HWdz3QFTP6Hcxbci+Z2sVd5vaIzkI5SP+jvyC+GubEp67Q50Kk1T/C8xnrk/DeVhfdjq Vg1JXZ1men7Wi+OpX0fQpb1hCeqyZUR+qTh+lP+GIauZ85gzSqE1DIojU6CS6CmDeWOP VlrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OeCkb9eo9HRSiRavpsORFiHQ6onzUbSzUazr1PND4Cg=; b=FXfr9cNMVe1T0+XiheRsHDhHgz9vbbFjLRLcG9EPfAu4NejKxtb+XNcSRDpmXsQyrX u/98TVtWPtjLKUpnclzduvDWrtwUoR9lhFYxvUvIL2k95sY3axdZ2slqt4BRCViRUjmP GgkbUXSnjSWhyY0a4yx4D/J+XXa25oRAahi08xag09q92OCcgU2kB1rOdLBFDi+ZNuPW KCS4Jwvy5D1clioH1WV6C4lxZm44GpcwiXSCFiUMkJ0h89bDMBy6haV7zMtR5/Bhe7En pTRLm50J1m8Ud6rxjI7LKbZRotMsST0pdStHsI31rVcd6HwtIqwJDA5PzgqsioQM4Zoc VCRw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnjNm+hNwjF/Oa7I0yJesKA2FwR36vi/5KOu2PF29NEhvWepv3fYHEJDqXKxAb0Qfsl0QkcODLw+160gC5kATCdJl8yXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.144.17 with SMTP id s17mr15993668lfd.94.1453409600879; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.172.16 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:53:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <59.F0.09073.49041A65@pb1.pair.com> References: <59.F0.09073.49041A65@pb1.pair.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 12:53:20 -0800 Message-ID: To: Flyingmana Cc: internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Handling of withdrawn RFCs From: ronabop@gmail.com (Ronald Chmara) On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Flyingmana wrote: > An RFC could still be valuable for the project, even if the original > author leaved, so taking it over should be possible. And it should not > be painful in any way. > Would we need some rules in case multiple people want to take it over, > or should we say the first one wins? > Is there any way to abuse the taking over of an withdrawn RFC? Hypothetically: An RFC being used primarily for ongoing debate/argument/trolling purposes could live indefinitely, generating hundreds, or thousands, of messages, and changesets/PR's, and list churn, in the name of "making sure an issue is adequately discussed and resolved". Even as individual trolls, marks, and sockpuppets were knocked down, new ones could pick up the mantle of "but we're discussing important things, here!", and continue the loop, only finally exhausting the suite of RFC mechanisms all of the trolls/marks/puppets finally gave up, or were someho0w being administratively prohibited from all future participation. Which, if the PHP email lists were an endless trolling/argument/debate forum like twitter or reddit, would be completely appropriate. This is all hypothetical, of course. -Ronabop