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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Re-proposed] Adopt Code of Conduct
From: padraic.brady@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draic_Brady?=)

Hi,

On 21 January 2016 at 04:37, Kevin Smith <kevin@gohearsay.com> wrote:
> I noticed you were contacted by Randi Lee Harper [https://archive.is/b8RD=
W], the ironically abusive founder of the Online Abuse Prevention Initiativ=
e [https://archive.is/eqco9][http://archive.is/A1Azz] known for attacking a=
nd attempting to eject from projects/employment people she associates with =
groups she doesn=E2=80=99t approve of [http://archive.is/1A8SQ], wherein sh=
e suggested that you ignore the Code of Merit that Pavel recommended for co=
nsideration because she associates the author of said code with a group tha=
t=E2=80=94though entirely unrelated to his Open Source contributions=E2=80=
=94she finds undesirable and then proceeded to make general derogatory comm=
ents about him [again, https://archive.is/b8RDW].

Are you here to debate the proposed COC, or to mount personal attacks
on someone outside of the PHP community?

> (My deepest apologies for such a tremendous run-on sentence.)
>
> I certainly hope this isn=E2=80=99t indicative of the spirit of this prop=
osal. This exchange really seems to suggest the goal of these codes in gene=
ral, and now possibly this one in particular, is what so many of us have fe=
ared: to exclude people with wrong ideas and associations, as defined by th=
e in-group.

Is that what the RFC actually states though? As it's a code of
conduct, it's directed at specific actions not whatever is running
through your, or my, head.

Paddy