Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90615 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38610 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2016 15:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Jan 2016 15:50:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.50 mail-wm0-f50.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.50] ([74.125.82.50:36932] helo=mail-wm0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F4/C0-34116-D2276965 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 10:50:05 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id f206so378574142wmf.0 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:50:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aqFIhrvwNBxhTSRSkql/Hp0fgxSFFru/7cjQOKvatyY=; b=FhrdSFIZZ7pzU+1HEkJs0zx7dO4kY8LuxZaLBo/3jJiHzx+A1kVXejAIQ627Wtw4ei VpJ6jZfHc7iL4qs4L5yPGacVmkAEgw3mGAtxVOM7cAtsPKavW3JdMoMGaFkG2mnzOwt8 GI7RSTjq4rl0jbuVwLY9rflXSz0uMq8Py4IN+U2QqmS/jc0DmemgqYNakn9haJSGuR8P 825ckg49Dp6YwkEW57yOoP6JiNw0O0qpl+K/9+vIpjHSqEd8Ve83juDyrc52DviPmyjZ ppzBxuqoWUJBvNOUIi7ZuPKYsgzJ+OgxXa9np/WTsDO7BjeNIhY6MsrP6wevNmD9JRLP 4JCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aqFIhrvwNBxhTSRSkql/Hp0fgxSFFru/7cjQOKvatyY=; b=aWsF1asuTSm6fE4yPd0YIuQXQ7duaPbDpsaXWx6E0O62SAyycU6NXoGaGsSm/l2eEC 19AjFlmQo6p9LMGQkzXpVzzsQvusfsgwpm9RWiP15It/zGC4giDqU4du/VBEcV0eYW38 x4yBsdYoxBcN2CXNnToL2yJMJkBNnxW9sr7ykkHLjQRJ4D8cBNoE32xYTipELBlMP7b8 GIEEZCqHfGSRqLQX51tsXIjuHayBeO7ir+OGA31p4MyP5+WJP5863Zkg6Ck4gYl8vxV/ oQ5fQkXl0NVxsfZeMEthhpOkvYDsfxsJ0mVjss3EWSXU/Lgj5uu1MA1SlUos3HOrdQ+/ wOEA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQms1Jf42cUpU62Myh2IJMb4dJ0P60634k60d6uJpzuTd2KEzjGfDZprXUvqpDgFlngbhY6BzpJiwqSkb2dYNpysGjjMiw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.5.213 with SMTP id 204mr24986465wmf.20.1452700202694; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.86.202 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <373698cabe053cb9bec8e1f6dc969906@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: To: Joe Watkins Cc: Zeev Suraski , Bob Weinand , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11442a048c0b0d0529391f43 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] PHP 5's Support Timeline From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a11442a048c0b0d0529391f43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: > > The way the RFC the choices are going to be interpreted was presented > ahead of time, was available throughout the entire discussion period, and > very clearly so: > > So what !? > so this should have been brought up before the voting was closed or even before it was started. otherwise these late complaints can be used for vote manipulation: wait for the votes and bring up the problem when the result did not went the way the reporter wanted. ofc. I'm not suggesting that you have intentionally held back this complain, just explaining why it is much harder to do anything with it based on the fact that this was articulated in the rfc explicitly and nobody complained about it before the votes were closed. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --001a11442a048c0b0d0529391f43--