Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90587
Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm
Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.171 as permitted sender)
To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>, John Bafford <jbafford@zort.net>
References: <8B865D2A-6762-430D-9EA1-9B693DE8E8C3@zort.net>
 <56948002.1080802@gmail.com> <A51E3740-45AD-4522-AFB6-74698066DB95@zort.net>
 <BY2PR02MB2988A3093E76D1E675BFD74ACCA0@BY2PR02MB298.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Cc: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Message-ID: <5695A417.4090902@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 17:10:47 -0800
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <BY2PR02MB2988A3093E76D1E675BFD74ACCA0@BY2PR02MB298.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Internals and Newcomers and the Sidelines (WAS:
 Adopt Code of Conduct)
From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> I have one idea.  I made an awful mistake while drafting the Voting
> RFC, requiring a 2/3 majority for language changes.  It should have
> been 85-90%.  When you have a 85-90% majority - it's likely to imply
> several things:

I have a feeling that wouldn't help. Instead of "it's toxic because
people argue endlessly" it'd be "it's toxic because every time anybody
has an idea somebody shows up and shuts it down, so nothing worthy ever
gets done" (please don't take it wrong way, I don't say unanimous RFCs
are unworthy, that would just be the perception for people whose RFCs
gained no support).
I.e. if now we have bad reputation and more RFCs passing, with higher
barrier we'd have (different) bad reputation and less RFCs passing. I
thing that won't be the fix we're looking for. Though we probably would
save some time ;)
-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com