Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90562 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2788 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2016 15:57:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jan 2016 15:57:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=danack@basereality.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=danack@basereality.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain basereality.com from 209.85.160.175 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: danack@basereality.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.175 mail-yk0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.175] ([209.85.160.175:33672] helo=mail-yk0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F5/E1-27877-58225965 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:57:58 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id k129so433180622yke.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:57:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2vGmTpAd82ZYV95AqU/NwH9BamPDeRcvn+K40Kj14Yo=; b=IMUADSRvyFf94OX/CWf/kYDJFz1N2AEZICjdSV8XC3mFAlaE7tNjIbMOZL9Sx6mEyp eoIQ5fGtBPZDfhFv+2+O8/2CDRpIyDMpCbP97neSBHFCaG9TJGaaVGyhdrxF2WvHv0w2 UFzQdU410OcyFdJ0398xJA1MAaqbd7adBDA9iGC5KBvBhAQoINtLQaJuQHXdOx9j8/As OzprGxtjBgfemuKNgkWEJyX0ENbP6JxldrfFh40L7uK762QlOAOCPvN35635AxT5VwkW 8xy5MIGCoLVwSgBf5TBoSU6Uag5W/dWLY/ILqjjgBNWVCR924aW7BA2j2X3yTyGQltid /e3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2vGmTpAd82ZYV95AqU/NwH9BamPDeRcvn+K40Kj14Yo=; b=czaxLMa6DTfA4WEumVENIgFt5+9rDje69hlhnmEHjCcqknRg/7gL55P8LlENfE1s8n aaA841xuPdqxbbFkY55sW8Uxx5eyzhMDr8DJMMM7IACsH6FomKwQmbwQAx9628zZSrwQ hbkOgHkCNGpAOhKbxzryqc/CJ+rob7EXIBSFRWasN741/tGcM27L1TpyKdLj2jPjC0XA VsGxwtWEu0cIIElXaIXNW2YE6LxyD3Wi1nJluaSBjuMqAAM8HZgqQJI4NWl3l2wBG0Vq eJd4ZkHGHZIxWLS0usZnwNx17o9K1W4cvbEHAdTXnxy7sW5VtUFmWVTLOzFXYFscLGLY aFUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm+EP6KFkNf7eUv6Z6DkKxpCb6z3MIcJmOJI2TN0g9bN9mGhaN7wTLilYkvOG18xKSQ+3XG/BRnKtExAeYTmroYVMe8tQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.135.7 with SMTP id x7mr95166578ywf.95.1452614274110; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.83.131 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 07:57:54 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [78.147.1.180] In-Reply-To: References: <8B865D2A-6762-430D-9EA1-9B693DE8E8C3@zort.net> <569506AC.2040503@thefsb.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:57:54 +0000 Message-ID: To: Chase Peeler Cc: Tom Worster , John Bafford , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Internals and Newcomers and the Sidelines (WAS: Adopt Code of Conduct) From: danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On 12 January 2016 at 15:27, Chase Peeler wrote: > I personally offered at least two emails with constructive feedback and > alternative solutions. I never saw any reply or feedback to either one. It's not possible for every email to be replied to in a conversation. If they were, then the conversation would last forever. > My take away from Anthony's last email is basically: "We're going to have a > CoC whether you like it or not. Then I believe you got the wrong point. Anthony was saying that the conversation wasn't helping him to refine the RFC to be more acceptable to the community; instead it was just generating more tension and animosity, and that he would prefer to suspend taking part in that conversation, until a more complete, and hopefully acceptable RFC could be written. At which point he would present the idea as a more polished RFC, which hopefully would have a productive conversation. cheers Dan