Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90561 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 801 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2016 15:51:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jan 2016 15:51:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sascha.schumann@myrasecurity.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sascha.schumann@myrasecurity.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain myrasecurity.com designates 185.85.3.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sascha.schumann@myrasecurity.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 185.85.3.44 mailoutb.myrasec.de Received: from [185.85.3.44] ([185.85.3.44:29034] helo=mailoutb.myrasec.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4F/71-27877-2F025965 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:51:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 16:51:11 +0100 (CET) To: Tom Worster , Chase Peeler , John Bafford Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <1629137549.3251.fd941ca0-f3d1-4b3c-8747-f8166ff46b39.open-xchange@ox.myrasec.de> In-Reply-To: References: <8B865D2A-6762-430D-9EA1-9B693DE8E8C3@zort.net> <569506AC.2040503@thefsb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.0-Rev6 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Internals and Newcomers and the Sidelines (WAS: Adopt Code of Conduct) From: sascha.schumann@myrasecurity.com (Sascha Schumann) > My take away from Anthony's last email is basically: "We're going to have a > CoC whether you like it or not. You are welcome to offer feedback to make > the CoC better after we propose it, but any feedback that says a CoC is bad > will be viewed as non-constructive and ignored." That would be foolish to assume. > Everyone is so afraid that people are afraid to get involved now because they > don't feel "safe." Are there any reasons for that? > It's even worse if you have an individual on the committee with their own > agenda that isn't operating in such a way. The current proposed code of conduct looks exactly designed to benefit that individuum. Sascha /oldtimer