Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90547 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73580 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2016 14:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jan 2016 14:07:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=eli@eliw.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=eli@eliw.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain eliw.com designates 69.195.222.200 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: eli@eliw.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 69.195.222.200 mx-mia-3.servergrove.com Received: from [69.195.222.200] ([69.195.222.200:34262] helo=mx-mia-3.servergrove.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B7/A6-32047-38805965 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:07:00 -0500 Received: from [69.195.222.125] (port=42697 helo=smtp2.servergrove.com) by mx-mia-3.servergrove.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1aIzb6-0005fz-HQ for internals@lists.php.net; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:06:56 +0000 Received: from [69.136.226.104] (port=61646 helo=[192.168.1.132]) by smtp2.servergrove.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aIzb5-00057e-Ob; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:06:55 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5690BCE6.6010908@gmail.com> <569182FD.6070404@gmail.com> <56918458.1070101@gmail.com> <5691D2EA.1050808@gmail.com> <5692307D.5050900@lsces.co.uk> <56925977.1040801@dennis.birkholz.biz> <5693C027.4070804@eliw.com> <5694D270.3050109@dennis.birkholz.biz> Message-ID: <56950882.7020008@eliw.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:06:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5694D270.3050109@dennis.birkholz.biz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="t6sq5IjqhnSUXj6ST3wr5qo055ePQ17FV" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki From: eli@eliw.com (Eli) --t6sq5IjqhnSUXj6ST3wr5qo055ePQ17FV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/12/16 5:16 AM, Dennis Birkholz wrote: > I don't think voting on an RFC is like electing your government. I > would compare it to how a House of Representatives works. And at least > here in Germany, they vote publicly except when electing people (e.g. > the Chancellor). That's a fine comparison. But there is a big difference in how a House vote is run, and a PHP RFC vote. And that's one of time. A vote in the House (at least in the US, and I assume it's similar in Germany). Happens at a moment. Discussions happen. Then a vote is called, everyone votes instantly.=20 Yes, the votes do become public afterwards. However there is not the '2-3 week period' of voting that happens on a PHP RFC, wherein you vote, and then while the vote is still up, and while you are allowed to change your vote, everyone knows how you voted. Which then leads into the flurry of badgering for people to change their votes, beleaguering comments designed to help people change their vote, and so on. Moving to at the very least a 'anonymous votes, and anonymous results, until after the vote is finished'. Would make it much more like a 'House' vote. #2cents Eli --=20 | Eli White | http://eliw.com/ | Twitter: EliW | --t6sq5IjqhnSUXj6ST3wr5qo055ePQ17FV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlaVCIIACgkQUTBVzmoxCKKlvwCgwY87NG+ONSdLoAKYMC5WfkKq 4sUAniuVTzSrgbo1p8fKpZkUq8n7lk8Q =h87N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --t6sq5IjqhnSUXj6ST3wr5qo055ePQ17FV--