Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90523 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95884 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2016 23:19:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2016 23:19:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:36999] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CE/41-21941-29834965 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 18:19:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 8584 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jan 2016 23:19:43 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 8578, pid: 8581, t: 0.0832s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 11 Jan 2016 23:19:43 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <910b145571b2c3e98338d54c0dd6a981@mail.gmail.com> <0E9E4C89-1800-4000-BD5A-BC81F43BE2FE@gohearsay.com> <44142A2C-0E7C-4525-880F-7759CD8A502A@heroku.com> <5691D820.4080309@gmail.com> <56934116.70002@garfieldtech.com> <56940D47.3060206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5694388F.7060804@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:19:43 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 11/01/16 22:55, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > There are two prime reasons people may avoid internals (at least > related to this discussion). > > 1. Don't want to deal with the aggressive tone of the list > 2. Don't want to expose themselves to targeted aggression/negativity Sorry, but this is bullshit ... And I say that as someone who's comments have been shouted down here in the past, but my views have never been censured and reading the list regularly I do not recognise EITHER of those statements. No CoC is going to change the manor my objections to the way PHP is developing are addressed, but as long as the 1.5+ million lines of PHP code I'm using remains working I'm not worried and will not waste any time discussing it. What people talk about on other media such as Twitter, Facebook, Google+, Linkedin, and so on is not something the PHP project has any influence over and winging there is not the place to register a problem? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk