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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:13:55 +0100
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To: Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
Cc: Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > least hold ourselves to a level of mutual respect. Going out and
> > calling someone a moron in public is not constructive nor respectful,
> > and IMHO we as a project shouldn't sit back and blindly say "whatever"
> > if it happens.
>
> OK, so what should we do instead? So far my calls to apply some TDD were
> not heard, maybe this time?
>
> Let's consider an example of twitter user drupliconissad. It may be
> genuine individual or a troll, it doesn't matter either way.
> If you read the feed, you can find much more than "moron". Now, had we
> had CoC, what would we do? We don't know who that is, so private
> moderation is out of the question, even if we did - it's not look like a
> personal conflict that can be amicably reconciled. Should we issue a
> proclamation saying "we think some anonymous account on twitter is being
> bad"? Should we ban that person (or group of persons - we have no idea
> either way), which we have no idea who that is, from our list? Any other
> ideas?
>
>
The previous example was Phil who is a member of the PHP project, and there
is no dispute that his twitter account isn't his, that situation would be
different from this drupliconissad twitter account who is unknown to us and
probably isn't part of our project and "violated" our CoC on non php.net
related place, so you are right that we can't(and shouldn't) do about
his/her activity outside of our venues but that doesn't mean that we can't
do anything about anybody who happens to be known and part of our project.

ps: these are just examples, I'm not suggesting anything about Phil


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