Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90501 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38606 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2016 15:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2016 15:42:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.45 mail-wm0-f45.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.45] ([74.125.82.45:33368] helo=mail-wm0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3F/9B-64385-E6DC3965 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:42:39 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f45.google.com with SMTP id f206so218053117wmf.0 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:42:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JKy3VF9ozREJNsPHJ9qQkygRuONPdHg5Ogsa+VXuxUQ=; b=1Chfkt4DzXnEjVslb5ND8PiuQGkOBvrvFMr/TaVjYjSdQBEavVP+Rx5XMFl2xj40k1 m7CSfP+t1Ir2UEAIrAPfivpZMqctR9bxf1HNpECo/fCVuVnFJYBxABZm+pPsMUGDB9pr oZxMrUCsijj5r/49bp6owkJXMIF3vLtWxWGW2Tu0+SyI7cjeSQdX8c+1ffitjFFwU9PP 0r3vvi2NMhTEz/wv3XfJ8K3c+dX2gueJ0fv0nagkyI0TcWmUniqNwakyH834xpaX3Imf XsT7H3PHfVqqrYPZFeaUSu/vm8fxsFXAsjpg4obZT8BSfR+xgyCa/m4qM7YrO2Nyvfgo iTvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.48.131 with SMTP id w125mr13512340wmw.18.1452526956235; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.86.202 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:42:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5693C739.8010206@eliw.com> References: <5690BCE6.6010908@gmail.com> <569182FD.6070404@gmail.com> <5693BB43.5020103@eliw.com> <5693C739.8010206@eliw.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:42:36 +0100 Message-ID: To: Eli Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114242a440d721052910c92e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a114242a440d721052910c92e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Eli wrote: > Thanks for all the backstory Ferenc, but I knew about the reasons for thi= s > pull request. It's relation to the current CoC discussion, as well as t= he > past cases of having anonymous votes and it's rollback. > > But my statement was in the context of the thread between Stas & Andrea. > Wherein Stas stated that we'd talked about having anonymous voting and we > all decided not to do it, and asked if anything had changed. Andrea > stated that no, things probably hadn't. > > My point was: Given that, as far as I can remember, all those discussion= s > of anonymous voting happened before the STH votes. We do have 'new > information' and things that have changed. Because various issues were > exposed during that voting process, wherein hidden votes could have helpe= d > some people from being beleaguered by people who disagreed with them, and > it would have stopped the ability for people to be > influenced/petitioned/pressed by others to change their vote. > > Hence: I think that there has been something that changed, a new data > point, and therefore a discussion may be merited. > > Eli > > ok, I wasn't sure about if they were referring to the old discussion where the anonymous voting was reverted almost instantly, or about the recent CoC discussion which was back and forth between having the voters/reporters privacy, shielding them from potential backlash or having more transparency for the voting results, so I'm curious about what Stas meant as well. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --001a114242a440d721052910c92e--