Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90496 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29150 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2016 14:51:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2016 14:51:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.47 mail-wm0-f47.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.47] ([74.125.82.47:37737] helo=mail-wm0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F1/D9-64385-B81C3965 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:51:56 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f47.google.com with SMTP id f206so272483677wmf.0 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:51:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HBVgwH6rEVTgd9HYCkPCJp9FkHXXGYpq4lE1Qmoz5MA=; b=fN1BJ7SZ722AGzxVxGSOwiXvSTn6j/froMgCZLtzSaLL/Kn//raakZCQLOVcaAXuOJ NwG5h+jM/DJ+SDqGv+s6Aekkwqv5PJbaIEWNxb0nUxHcdiM+Dqt3slTi8qG+Rh9Y1NY2 z4Cij5jtdEU1ktVerzVXZM12vG2N/uWUBv3pAhiTrO3h4drJuzJjb0xkCxbcvHfXke3m 2+qAVDGLuxK3/4EhJJo5ZD229lnJJcZ1v6MnuipeydQL02jgHbGmljW9iwdWpUFeXCA3 BCfBNx2Wr5dL7tOjLI7Xd1RGqEe+nmFAkMw1qU8pRs4tjNfT2GgP0fyI00h/G0yhSxwP xJ3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.48.131 with SMTP id w125mr13271864wmw.18.1452523912217; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.86.202 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 06:51:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5693BB43.5020103@eliw.com> References: <5690BCE6.6010908@gmail.com> <569182FD.6070404@gmail.com> <5693BB43.5020103@eliw.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:51:52 +0100 Message-ID: To: Eli Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114242a4d0cad305291013c5 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --001a114242a4d0cad305291013c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Eli wrote: > On 1/9/16 5:03 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > Hi Stas, > > > > Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >>> This seems useful. I do wonder whether we should use by default for > >>> RFCs. It's interesting to see how different people vote, and knowing > >>> who > >> > >> I think we talked about it, and decided not to do it. Anything changed= ? > > > > Actually, I don't think so. My fear was probably unfounded. > > Has this discussion happened since the STH votes happened? I know it's > been discussed before, but it seems that the STH vote kinda brought this > out of the woodwork a bit. And honestly I haven't seen a serious > discussion about 'by default anonymous' since that time. (But perhaps I > missed it) > > Eli > Not sure which discussion you are referring(probably where were the anonymous voting brought up again since the STH votes), but this pull request was created because in the Code of Conduct thread somebody mentioned that having anonymous votes can be useful when dealing with code of conduct sanctions: https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/msg82537.html where it was mentioned that previously we had hidden votes for a short while but people complained and we reverted it: https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/msg82549.html so Stas replied that he will be looking into porting the old patch: https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/msg82651.html and here we are now, afaik the current PR from Stas introduces the anonymous votes as an optional vote type which is less intrusive/controversial than the last one, so we could merge it without having any visible effects. personally I wouldn't merge until we decided if we need/want the anon votes, be that for regular RFCs (in which case I would only support the inclusion if closing the vote makes visible who voted what) or for some other new type of voting. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --001a114242a4d0cad305291013c5--