Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90486 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10632 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2016 13:44:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2016 13:44:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:33992] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C5/06-64385-CC1B3965 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:44:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A06B8E20F0; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:44:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:44:41 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: Andrea Faulds cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5690BCE6.6010908@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Anonymous voting on wiki From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Sat, 9 Jan 2016, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi Stas, > > Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > > Since in CoC discussion it was mentioned we may need anonymous > > voting, I've created a patch that allows anonymous polls to be > > created: > > > > https://github.com/php/web-wiki/pull/7 > > > > The results still recorded per user, but everybody can see just > > their own vote (for logged in users) and total summary. People with > > shell access to the server will be able to see the votes, > > unfortunately I don't see how to avoid that without serious rewrite. > > Also, once the poll is created as anonymous it can't be turned into > > non-anonymous without resetting the results or manual admin action. > > > > Please review/comment. Is it's good, I propose to deploy it on > > wiki.php.net. > > > > This seems useful. I do wonder whether we should use by default for > RFCs. It's interesting to see how different people vote, and knowing > who voted which way means you can ask them what their objections were. I have gotten these question in the past, and I think it's important to be able to be asked why you made a specific choice. > Though, anonymous voting would mean no potential for harassing people > for the way they voted (though they're not necessarily free of > harassment for their opinion - many people make theirs public anyway). I do think that for normal RFCs, voting should not be anonymous. However, if we go that way, I find it important that once voting is closed, the votes are always shown (for normal RFCs) - even if chose to make normal RFC voting anonymous. > One concern I have with the patch is that it doesn't appear (by my > reading of the code) to show who voted. I think it's important to know > who participated in the vote, even if we don't know which way they > voted. I disagree, I think it is important to know who voted for what in the end. Some accountability is good. cheers, Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug Posted with an email client that doesn't mangle email: alpine