Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90455 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15605 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2016 17:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2016 17:03:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.171 mail-ig0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.171] ([209.85.213.171:32977] helo=mail-ig0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EC/8D-14657-BDE82965 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 12:03:23 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z14so105262983igp.0 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:03:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=XBtHp4wD0hL21NO9+G0SjU1a4iNOZhA3befyjupPpr8=; b=paX9YxS/adFONzkp1TIJftzSVGVb8EhsdPNnbCMgzZLiNacKGeYnFpkGCjM6S2nTCR gw+jibZupYPDrzrkE5FvkZVY6JR/Sh6NuptNJZIUDF/ydiLFw+iIRbKNlxZGW0YqeGh/ LTQ9m22hMaOyzur6KsKkGaFrJyZQjCr0uax+OacZieKbKM6FNqIB0aabrqjd0Vd6fb8/ 2T3zvW67hGRncOnvZTL4EdCbybQjE3oR7XPzXL0K9no/4BlbA1i7PL+hczPIJ6cynpzc mgbZnYQNa88BnLJaI3SU5yjLecQ+BmUYMPiPfXwYpNzrmim3k9Fe6F9TjnLmrQ4zuwqH mdjw== X-Received: by 10.50.33.52 with SMTP id o20mr8559807igi.60.1452445400415; Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:03:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronin.attlocal.net ([2602:306:bdf1:d380:cd4a:b015:1d7d:6e55]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm45330699ioa.17.2016.01.10.09.03.18 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Jan 2016 09:03:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:03:17 -0600 Cc: David Zuelke , Kevin Smith , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <910b145571b2c3e98338d54c0dd6a981@mail.gmail.com> <0E9E4C89-1800-4000-BD5A-BC81F43BE2FE@gohearsay.com> <44142A2C-0E7C-4525-880F-7759CD8A502A@heroku.com> To: Anthony Ferrara X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") Hi Anthony, > On Jan 9, 2016, at 21:48, Anthony Ferrara wrote: [Regarding supported of the COC as presented] > We've been trying to discuss logic. I think "logic" would apply itself to more measurements of observable = reality. For example: - Collect observations and apply some sort of measurement to them. - Describe a hypothesis about the conditions leading to the measurable = observations. - Describe (in relation to the hypothesis) a course of action by which = the measurable outcomes could be changed, both positively and = negatively, to either prove or disprove the hypothesis. - After implementing the course of action, continue to collect = observations and apply the prior measurements to them, including both = confirmatory and disconfirmatory observations. - Determine if the course of action succeeded or failed in changing the = measureable observations, thus either confirming or disconfirming the = hypothesis. Of course, that's just one approach that "logic" might use. Do you feel = the approach to the COC has been "logical" in that sense? If not in that = sense, then in what other sense do you feel it has been "logical" ? --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php