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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct
From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> Aside from Phil Sturgeon (who used unacceptably harsh language), the
> people who support this have been exceedingly reasonable. We've been

I could bring some choice quotes (not only from Phil) which nobody would
call reasonable, but that's not the point. I don't want to have a
contest of who suffers more here and whose insults are insultier. Yes,
we should not use words like "fascist" and loaded terms like "SJW" are
not helpful either, because they do not promote anything but inflame
whoever they are applied to and make them more defensive. We do not need
more polarization, we need less. And I am a strong believer that any
disagreement, however powerful, can be expressed without using such labels.

> Yet time and time again, we're attacked and accused. A perfect example

Everybody participating in this discussion meaningfully will be attacked
and accused, especially in places which exist for such things - twitter,
reddit, etc. - if not personally than surely collectively, by virtue of
supporting certain side. It's just inevitable, and we can't do anything
about it except one thing - not doing it ourselves. Please do that,
everybody.

> currently 207 messages long. Out of that 207, the vast majority *FROM
> EITHER SIDE* is either rhetoric, hyperbole or pure argument.

What's wrong with rhetoric and argument? That's how discussion is made.
Hyperbole, of course, can be toned down, though we are all humans, so I
would expect it to show up from time to time.

> But foremost, let's act like professionals.

Wholeheartedly agree.
-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com