Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90434 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52382 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2016 03:09:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2016 03:09:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dz@heroku.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dz@heroku.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain heroku.com designates 209.85.213.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dz@heroku.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.179 mail-ig0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.179] ([209.85.213.179:33217] helo=mail-ig0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4F/C4-14657-57BC1965 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:09:42 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z14so99285508igp.0 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:09:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heroku-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+YAivhEXSWqCa8SlVVs2JjmZsGw/sNInwvIhnwgWjMo=; b=SQ5so0o9lYUFWSIXKSOHlrdKZGs72DAzNoE5GSHPapmeJXCP7tQ8QsZQENCu8p5N6j u/FqOiRIwszeCwOb0eUqsCUREBF3aUQQz2aUacDQdc2NolszfZB0/NOzBxyMHyPqaoRn glxIccef3Zd1zWAvtMsYwsc1hh9wJ92uciM4n6kJg2CFa6K93Mt7kRpdsvp7vskgArhR Ost8dJA3nXfxAwp3l3swLDsEL/ANv2dX/MhGOfbeqSrT6EAkqIfcMwgJs3qgJv8lYTpK uhtwBYABZfiIcW78M5E2H8dyhckFindnAI1JaQD5h0btT9F2JYdeN0fSzUIXQw3CHVk5 bSZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=+YAivhEXSWqCa8SlVVs2JjmZsGw/sNInwvIhnwgWjMo=; b=Z+x+Sv5xGHQotzBFwbcDHJUASHXCCyUNxPCeir6Q787i+7iqvOHyud8JsFay+q+1Ov LHm0hJxbXmQhB45GKGSA1CerqxVomuxzYNaGN8OEOf41K/WfKnX8EDYYL8UZLEZH5X5a RagU9X97o5E+BeZZp4jq9RcAcv5jt7fW0mXSWytm8cVOAJiGW0iICvm+NqeRJckN6QIJ dSkT8UB3LHFHjHRaLcQSL8uPGA9kkF4PU7SF8aX3wjolhDrp58oG9c8IkWMpmDVnllKB C7/DsFxILEq79u306VONFutXKM/oayy535dixhCMOVQ/vvUaS+GjrRE4vxJxmQLCW6Ql 29Dw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnEJOqJVFLBA+ReUSuPAV6hyEqxXWHm4Xt5q4+26khZZeWd0Vs01+oVA13dMXOsAWhRdImTY/1l2NfJxl8vYVYFs9TMfw== X-Received: by 10.50.55.4 with SMTP id n4mr5600790igp.64.1452395379470; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.19.131.101] ([12.130.117.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w191sm27208433iod.30.2016.01.09.19.09.31 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:09:38 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 19:09:14 -0800 Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9FBD8746-AB85-42B8-BF98-81FC9BF30693@heroku.com> References: <568C9ED7.30504@gmail.com> To: Anthony Ferrara X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: dz@heroku.com (David Zuelke) On 06.01.2016, at 07:21, Anthony Ferrara wrote: >=20 > Stas, >=20 > I wanted to avoid citing personal examples for personal reasons. But > since you refuse to read between the lines, here it goes: >=20 > I have received no less than 4 direct threats of violence that were > directly due to my involvement with the Scalar Type Declarations RFC. >=20 > I believe that both Zeev and myself crossed significant lines during > that discussion as well, to which there should have been some level of > recourse or moderator that could have stepped in to cool us down and > help. But do you think a CoC could or should have intervened here? Simply = because two grown-up human beings couldn't agree on something and found = it difficult to take a step back when the argument became to heated? More to the point, where is that line crossed? Are you confident that = Zeev and you both think that lines were crossed, and would you mark = those lines at the same moments during the debate?