Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90433 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50898 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2016 03:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2016 03:05:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dz@heroku.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dz@heroku.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain heroku.com designates 209.85.213.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dz@heroku.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.175 mail-ig0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.175] ([209.85.213.175:35635] helo=mail-ig0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 87/74-14657-18AC1965 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:05:38 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f175.google.com with SMTP id t15so75700224igr.0 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:05:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heroku-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=GoHn1S9rF2k0TrjJQGNtOg99FVyd0EQ2/74Kve4sXHo=; b=G6LP/VDv9jjwhEc35Je9aGBZsw8+atdUoXh+dnPppR8/FTeaMS8hT9YGEITh/TFqPI ekl56XytRn3l2owVB3O4e3ayr4BoWyocLxcdXGR5iBywFqZaiSRtpEt82v3N99vROdkS owGgUwizX5Cppa/BbAkwBsxu85V4g8dqtlVkxNe0N+sXGhv2jpmjOSwp5be6fYVm1zxS yQhUTG0WJuerkeGqpG6+TWeHVWJzhzUCNx8Vdl0JDbQLQsYbxWx9ylAeX4cPsJ4dH95u ijlJS47gWLjXzJ9QXNf9XLDVPJxg+RjunbFRszH+1hTpispBSwYExjRLcRilgWs56Diz U8DA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=GoHn1S9rF2k0TrjJQGNtOg99FVyd0EQ2/74Kve4sXHo=; b=h2szzb2mQIi0s4m9OuhPzFmCwsnL6iLfOxwFKR3t4JFQnsbB/XQbODT6rGqMkruqqR O/sozICwvIMq6fXxVyMl/i5x5jOKJJf0auHGbfXwR9RPiv6hEqFNrMTHRtMCm2UlSANn IApLUmch87zPrq9rt8kA6ag6+tanW+qSW3Zu0/UIKKez2fWQknjq4xGYhR3kP/QC0mlN 35zqPPXFDckM271ix70yRjTQQC1yzGKTqKsm/pIZJpkO+W5yo7Nkrh0dCFUD0nGr/fJT +87V3iP6UQQQvDKYnMJG0a8rN/TKPwCoD4m4ujJ2hP/64H/ZbfFqAC8nDDfath8HEEa/ wWHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnYHWTFHM1XcfsYw4j2Zg46BzTn13n4g3/lI2k4RX8YBEreAzeiG1Wcz4Vjqe8wQrOwcCBlJrmC08QPQhCQR+knWII4ZQ== X-Received: by 10.50.40.8 with SMTP id t8mr6222173igk.26.1452395132984; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.19.131.101] ([12.130.117.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g5sm2428991igc.9.2016.01.09.19.05.30 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Jan 2016 19:05:31 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 19:05:22 -0800 Cc: Sara Golemon , Zeev Suraski , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <8E389245-DF06-43AA-B129-309AC739E07B@heroku.com> References: <910b145571b2c3e98338d54c0dd6a981@mail.gmail.com> To: Anthony Ferrara X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: dz@heroku.com (David Zuelke) On 08.01.2016, at 07:09, Anthony Ferrara wrote: >=20 > I think if the current RFC went to vote, it would come very close to > passing as-is. But as I've said before, I don't think it's anywhere > near ready to vote on. Larry has started a discussion with the people > behind Drupal's CoC, and I hope that leads to significant change and > clarity in the CoC and CRP that I'm proposing. I'd like it if we didn't even begin to consider this line of argument = ("it would probably already pass"), and I'm glad that we're remaining = open to debate here (and it should kept open for much, much longer). If this aims to be a ~democratic process, then the approach cannot = simply be "enough people are in agreement, done". An essential goal of a = democracy or a process that attempts to emulate/imitate is not to simply = assert the interests of the majority, but protect the interests of the = minorities - or, in this case, those in opposition.