Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90394 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11571 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2016 19:15:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2016 19:15:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.213.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.46 mail-vk0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.46] ([209.85.213.46:36292] helo=mail-vk0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 77/3B-55593-2CA00965 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 14:15:14 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id n1so42519082vkb.3 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 11:15:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zend-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:thread-index:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pUREGR27CHkqMl+42pS2MZ0ASx8NPvT6fYzENqHu9dw=; b=VVg5F9FOvjQREKI5yO8GIiRICPL/CcyAbeC/pyUgbmPyM6c1EVtB8U5zEoTLjFKksn 9KBOVx3xfV+Ye1AQiFA9wAnbDwSG4Hi9e5DiIc95eaqtUhiYuHwSHzsvHe4czQj1as8L sDgmX3FNaIpyzmtuDdMnPMPlKCD/R9fdATyf0fgy+hrtWqiFRFhYxDm52/hFcSIksyss ZUiEg4zRvgSRMEfNnh/VTt9jMfMCsN1h4SfcU75ZFKMSTMS8JYaXsPiX95wcXmpus/py OqQLjmc/E+wWNNQ33IWbPvkOuBn1wDrYhz8xr/bzgIJojjcf/JVylTN7IWpihxyN6aAf HfWg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pUREGR27CHkqMl+42pS2MZ0ASx8NPvT6fYzENqHu9dw=; b=RmzzrQ/VDoPQcT/KyT2FYNOmwOsgYB4EBurrjHtxZGhUr0n5hwFvNh1DJY4xXqUHKW I4K3+5FSB7euqcoecqyhRkav6MwErnJsFqfzlg109qoFLyMqekCdn9DtZSXl5VOZoQZE XVa1nUQUrYuzOllHTDZG6s17MyOdZsKTCNdQnUMZ8NG6uEouyJ468eZiEiVwgckxGYUI Eyp05rH+46H9N6i6VYpU/jkrJyJEfYaK3m6RCxkKJGA8gb86+li7h8L/kBKBPA316jE9 BluT2kdn1bpSG/pUCDmeZngOVAsVzk89dxPeYWHGXltwpJCAwXI2tHCMliXT2IwWYxCk QBjw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQma9dILCeEq8iiHoA7fMIGrY1XTlRif5VNle0+7yWMQtEJLUZePOs/sJgHCeK8WCm4rqE3YpGpTsRUvgzXJoGTeV+SUAp9cOwFrKjtqL50XBv7lI8OzmwgVuPiCmS9PDGyxYxw40oB2YVX5w0yQP51ktsIKKlEGhnI2iHVlZkqJPgO2EknfsXQRw8UGbdOEu7hbl7Eh9uLfZPQZu08m31AEEFaxGg== X-Received: by 10.31.164.78 with SMTP id n75mr46797544vke.14.1452280511003; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 11:15:11 -0800 (PST) References: <568C9ED7.30504@gmail.com> <568D4220.3050309@php.net> <568D69EE.4000209@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQL0YDuyoRIgr+1z934JDGCphyFvsgHmJiHyAfeM8U0BLtJNSwKfFunSAgS81qwC0AWydgH94uEenDfe85A= Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:15:05 +0200 Message-ID: To: Sara Golemon Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: php@golemon.com [mailto:php@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara > Golemon > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:46 PM > To: Stanislav Malyshev > Cc: Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre ; Anthony Ferrara > ; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct > > Two people in conflict won't necessarily recount the basis of their > conflict > because why would they need to? The other person was there, and they > "know what they did"! Add a third party (say, a response team of five > diverse individuals), and now each side needs to enumerate what happened, > what went wrong, why it's a problem. Now you have an impartial observer > who can say, "Hey! You guys aren't even on the same page! Did you notice > that?" That's the role of a response team, to me. Not to act as judges, > but to > act as mediators. +1000. Zeev