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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct
From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> I think many do agree. If you look at this 225+ reply thread, the vast
> majority of karma holding people have not responded (even many who
> frequent this list). A few (5+) of them have reached out to me
> personally to say that they are explicitly staying out of this
> discussion because of the level of aggression and tone, but would be
> willing to support a reasonable proposal (some provided meaningful
> feedback on it, some support the current revision).

This is a very good point. Public discussion can be very taxing. Now,
I'd like to understand several things here:

1. Do you think CoC would change how this very discussion is handled,
and if so, how exactly?
2. Would CRT have to act on something that happened in the course of
this discussion, here on list, and if so, which actions would those be?
3. After this action, do you think those people that feel uncomfortable
to participate in the discussion would participate?

This of course requires predicting actions of other people, so it can
not be certain, but I'd like to hear your opinion.

> Think about that. People who are long standing members of this
> community and project do not feel that they can safely respond to this
> very thread. Think of the irony there.

"Safely" is very loaded word. It may mean "I don't have nerves to argue"
- and that's completely fine, not everybody has time and energy to deal
with all the stuff going on here. And it may be mean "I fear being
harassed or physically threatened by opponent" - and if so, this fear
doesn't look exactly substantiated, since that never happened so far, at
least on the list, so I wonder how we can fix it taking into attention
the fear is of something that does not exist.
-- 
Stas Malyshev
smalyshev@gmail.com