Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90361 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53195 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2016 16:13:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2016 16:13:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.178 mail-yk0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.178] ([209.85.160.178:34672] helo=mail-yk0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 43/1F-55593-020EF865 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 11:13:20 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f178.google.com with SMTP id a85so289389516ykb.1 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:13:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=MhuLs22GYfO5RBBfqxB9oZx9MwXRCBH1Uu/jJMhoEEI=; b=qdrM6+BjuVCrSZaxeNx0PmeZpqExnKfQvxIdbsBP+2zj9ibfiQ5l+17IS52qIYf3LY XRn6T7P0dcpB9xSBQ+2b/mjigfJYFAOukTKdVPvVMaES37eKyrD3y+5y+jdxq1lQyXAp usW9UKIWArNzkmRkr32M2iHoem1mJL320Ybh2R5zbtgCyRmZp0nN/25imMwv+kxGie44 onNxeY+Ln6BmvhGcI9RZ7aewyp/v9pS0er9iGyQFaqXnb9OTY3HPR3F036KI8H0HLtDj VDFm/4ZUw4UfAFCH+wFKsl+pXiLBzhgaXp0Gc/L13l+kywaAJkTR404bG7Zqd0PcXRJ4 ImNg== X-Received: by 10.129.46.208 with SMTP id u199mr80667807ywu.129.1452269597691; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:cecb:ae30:4591:3b50:4b8:75d1? ([2602:306:cecb:ae30:4591:3b50:4b8:75d1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w82sm35075869ywc.29.2016.01.08.08.13.16 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Jan 2016 08:13:16 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: <8D90A4F6-4E3E-4283-B8E3-152E4707EF4E@moonspot.net> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:13:16 -0600 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> <568D7C5D.9020405@php.net> <1e6a13607a3a1c8b20a4649f8a5ef767@mail.gmail.com> <3AB5AA82-4F17-40C3-B8B5-33697A8DBEC2@gmail.com> <8D90A4F6-4E3E-4283-B8E3-152E4707EF4E@moonspot.net> To: Brian Moon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 7, 2016, at 22:08, Brian Moon wrote: >=20 >> Why not? The harassment has been nullified. >=20 > I agree with your position on most of this, Paul. However, free email, = and thus, Twitter and other social media accounts are nearly unlimited. = It becomes an arms race to try and block someone. (/me nods) I think that sounds like valuable criteria to include under "determining = if it's harassment or not". If someone is so dedicated to coming after = their target that they start creating multiple accounts, then I think = that's at least a relatively objective measure. Likewise, if you block = someone in two or three outside-project channels, and the same messages = start showing up in even more outside-project channels, that too becomes = something close to an objective measure of harassment. Even so, there's a flip side. If someone want to make a false accusation = as an attack to get their target banned, the false accuser can create = those accounts themselves and start projecting a harassment campaign = where none exists. So even the existence of alternative accounts used to = continue otherwise-blocked communications is not a certain measure. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php