Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90356 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44793 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2016 15:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Jan 2016 15:47:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.174 mail-yk0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.174] ([209.85.160.174:33967] helo=mail-yk0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2F/3D-55593-61ADF865 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 10:47:34 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f174.google.com with SMTP id a85so288480824ykb.1 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:47:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=ugWsJV3GCgomNliF67YMs7Y+WpNnsEzsMZtaysQdrTY=; b=EOgIN4LOjvsevtIHhaIwTv6HH1z2i41/VTp456PN2YnxJBYtqky0t2Q45Tg7JfJI8v d3HjAKwsssawaXtz6vv8vJuo+7cirA2HXL1CGr4GtLQhf46ezrZYByW75VrruOU4F5RE LK+X8MGRCsjIzEHA02HxnFgLuPs5G9JgwqitJWuRPBR00d/ChKye4InwnaKQ+rrZLypN C7BVeJ2HmHOefyjfpLdqJE3auG7O2cLH9cDUOKvWhncGlRAMy3nFninSUdhpVMXPe6Hg yc6dPN126vzb07Ev5HjbNhFrw3oBJOompLJCJD4sdRpvsAXTS4LHPSsI3U0chJiYs9PF KJIg== X-Received: by 10.13.214.15 with SMTP id y15mr68222652ywd.331.1452268052174; Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:cecb:ae30:4591:3b50:4b8:75d1? ([2602:306:cecb:ae30:4591:3b50:4b8:75d1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r8sm11011713ywb.20.2016.01.08.07.47.30 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Jan 2016 07:47:31 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: <0E9E4C89-1800-4000-BD5A-BC81F43BE2FE@gohearsay.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 09:47:28 -0600 Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <24353A5F-47AA-4354-B97C-34BD0020DB27@gmail.com> References: <910b145571b2c3e98338d54c0dd6a981@mail.gmail.com> <0E9E4C89-1800-4000-BD5A-BC81F43BE2FE@gohearsay.com> To: Kevin Smith , Anthony Ferrara X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 8, 2016, at 09:39, Kevin Smith wrote: >=20 >> Think about that. People who are long standing members of this >> community and project do not feel that they can safely respond to = this >> very thread. Think of the irony there. >=20 > For what it=E2=80=99s worth, I=E2=80=99ve had 2 people reach out to me = privately to say they=E2=80=99re really uncomfortable with this proposal = but don=E2=80=99t want to get involved because they're worried about = being labeled =E2=80=9Ctoxic=E2=80=9D, and I=E2=80=99m a brand-new = contributor. A real nobody. Something similar happening with me, too. I've had several people reach = out to me who would like to comment against the RFC, but are unwilling = to do so because they fear for their jobs; i.e., being "disemployed" for = their opinions. Think about *that* for a while. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php