Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90330 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48182 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2016 22:21:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2016 22:21:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=fsb@thefsb.org; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=fsb@thefsb.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thefsb.org designates 173.203.187.123 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: fsb@thefsb.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 173.203.187.123 smtp123.iad3a.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [173.203.187.123] ([173.203.187.123:50301] helo=smtp123.iad3a.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/B9-21405-9F4EE865 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 17:21:46 -0500 Received: from smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 78B2B18061A; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 17:21:42 -0500 (EST) X-Auth-ID: fsb@thefsb.org Received: by smtp24.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 5314D180554; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 17:21:42 -0500 (EST) X-Sender-Id: fsb@thefsb.org Received: from yossy.local (c-66-30-62-12.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [66.30.62.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:587 (trex/5.5.4); Thu, 07 Jan 2016 17:21:42 -0500 To: bishop@php.net, Andrea Faulds , PHP internals References: Message-ID: <568EE4F0.20003@thefsb.org> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 17:21:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: fsb@thefsb.org (Tom Worster) On 1/7/16 4:48 PM, Bishop Bettini wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > >> >> I do wonder if we're really going anywhere here. > > > I don't think we are. We're arguing protocol, process, and punishment > before agreeing on rights and responsibilities. Design before requirements is engineering analogy that occurred to me. Tom