Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90314 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19723 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2016 20:34:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2016 20:34:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.179 mail-yk0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.179] ([209.85.160.179:33718] helo=mail-yk0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/04-21405-9BBCE865 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 15:34:01 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f179.google.com with SMTP id k129so319612268yke.0 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 12:34:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=fTts2s54FJCgFf3OH6hHlVN6kLmZUqqvd4DWIvbK0os=; b=AmGBkRvxk0JIh/9fyIfyzJhFQBlHJfr84gnR8QqYEnKB8vN6utl4VXnYWp1Csdkd73 0NnS2RSlY7VglopPOeSpuH9PI6teH/I/tUtFwRKqeAMhq7fsBCxURHH4hPv3RNcWUPrG 0koC1uDHvEf8LsmgJE020pEgrZ2+IXoIBAR1KNpAAG1vKNWN7jIvQjVq0bM0Y5FzJgdi RRBD9blYLbCdM86q0UKt4bwg69VwEVmJUpa1M5D4hz9/lD6mzFFahYBZv6k6ZJNxvbqz OdlKxZOSKZBgZsGnY3mOVTDdQ6GSSu79zTgXm88zb3UxTm3LWUZNLfDTN084GxGcOI88 +jqQ== X-Received: by 10.129.145.5 with SMTP id i5mr67145702ywg.24.1452198838648; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 12:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:cecb:ae30:7cfc:fbfa:1163:db7e? ([2602:306:cecb:ae30:7cfc:fbfa:1163:db7e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x132sm40613027ywb.15.2016.01.07.12.33.57 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jan 2016 12:33:58 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:33:57 -0600 Cc: Pierre Joye , Anthony Ferrara , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <762C7DFB-8CB8-4D75-A796-71858BA84325@gmail.com> References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> <568D7C5D.9020405@php.net> <1e6a13607a3a1c8b20a4649f8a5ef767@mail.gmail.com> <3AB5AA82-4F17-40C3-B8B5-33697A8DBEC2@gmail.com> <0AFAA09D-0933-4C8D-91A4-307F9916D3AD@gmail.com> <2328961D-4B28-4EE7-8DDD-AD1F1A0A3617@gmail.com> <87E54FB2-7294-4CED-B969-46B086903E18@gmail.com> <4594B7A8-D6A0-433A-9EAB-92C421E73EB9@gmail.com> To: Dan Ackroyd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 7, 2016, at 14:31, Dan Ackroyd wrote: >=20 > On 7 January 2016 at 20:12, Paul M. Jones wrote: >>=20 >> If the activity in question rises to the level of filing a petition = for *and being granted* a restraining order, *then and only then* might = the project have some responsibility to help enforce that order, since = the project itself may become subject to a lawsuit or other legal = actions. (I am satisfied to read "employee" as = "contributor/participant" and "employer" as "the project" in this case.) >>=20 >> But anything less? No, the project's responsibility is only to = enforce its policies on its own communication channels. >=20 > So you're saying, any harassment that failed to meet a criminal > criteria, wouldn't be acted upon. >=20 > Any harassment where the person being harassed decides to just leave > the project rather than seek a court order, wouldn't be acted upon. >=20 > Fun-fact*, if I went round to someone's house, took some photos of it, > maybe took some pictures of their family as well, and then sent them > those pictures with the message "Hey, are you going to fix that bug > that's important to me, or shall I come round to your house to discuss > it in person?", none of that would reach a criminal matter, and so > there would be nothing the PHP project could do about it. >=20 > Don't get me wrong, that behaviour would be creepy as heck - but not > anything the police or a court could do anything about. Sure it would. You can get a restraining order, especially a temporary = one, on the flimsiest of evidence. What makes you think a court would do = nothing about it? --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php