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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 02:25:34 +0700
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To: "Paul M. Jones" <pmjones88@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Jan 8, 2016 2:21 AM, "Paul M. Jones" <pmjones88@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2016, at 13:15, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 8, 2016 1:58 AM, "Paul M. Jones" <pmjones88@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I notice you did not answer my question. I'll ask again: when you say
"proven guilty" what exactly do you mean?
> >
> > I see you are going to nitpick here. So let clarify it.
>
> When we're talking about banning people as a result of their actions,
we'd better be clear on the details, don't you think?
>
>
> > If there is a clear set of evidences that someone harassed, insulted,
attacked another person then it fits this definition.
>
> What to you would be "a clear set of evidences"?  (If you have examples
of actual occurrences, that would be better than building hypotheticals,
and probably easier.)
>
>
> > Please keep in mind than harassment, attacks or insults have nothing to
do with opinions.
>
> Unfortunately, too many people confuse "argument" with "harassment", and
"disagreement" with "attacks", and "observations" as "insults."  So I'd
like to hear first what "clear evidence" means to you.

This is what I mean by nitpicking. I am sure you perfectly understand my
point as well as what I would consider as bad. Just in case, an opiniated
hot discussion is not. I would appreciate a clear answer as well from your
side and little less nitpicking.

Do you consider than harassing/insulting and similar person should remain
untouched? Or for extreme cases not banned?

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