Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90299 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93950 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2016 19:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2016 19:21:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.171 mail-qk0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.171] ([209.85.220.171:36134] helo=mail-qk0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/CE-21405-0AABE865 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:21:04 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q19so134677471qke.3 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=BgljjBtWBXVxKK4CPQ8dNJp/7ML9hUXt+kqwygECBKE=; b=SWSU9wqhMzVp3+4l43v7ClBc1WEjlnWKCecWHA5jGMTXbn8U1yJfcY59cRTHpDEY9r 7LbaiETUUbPgXQEG30wIR2jhrXUEKiav2sEOS5tifC72OO/dS/fYJZWImiPA1ijQ+Wgo HORjmR3YWU42AkX3gxPMBx7nKCfQQLM4Xnk9W6+JqGvQoIgUIc/5MJePi/CBvDBIhJHx 1KuPm47YUT6S/U1V87509eW6UYFbzMuFeROT6soDqNUFnhb1cOOXRnJKziXxGRg93R4O ComWVL4YW3AlegN1Tv9LlSScsDSATGpi1wl69fhKFx8ury2C0DXDAhCJabSfVYFSvX8u L/Bw== X-Received: by 10.13.241.68 with SMTP id a65mr86835543ywf.324.1452194461449; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:cecb:ae30:7cfc:fbfa:1163:db7e? ([2602:306:cecb:ae30:7cfc:fbfa:1163:db7e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v130sm8193835ywe.24.2016.01.07.11.21.00 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:21:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 13:20:59 -0600 Cc: Anthony Ferrara , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> <568D7C5D.9020405@php.net> <1e6a13607a3a1c8b20a4649f8a5ef767@mail.gmail.com> <3AB5AA82-4F17-40C3-B8B5-33697A8DBEC2@gmail.com> <0AFAA09D-0933-4C8D-91A4-307F9916D3AD@gmail.com> <2328961D-4B28-4EE7-8DDD-AD1F1A0A3617@gmail.com> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 7, 2016, at 13:15, Pierre Joye wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 8, 2016 1:58 AM, "Paul M. Jones" wrote: >>=20 >> I notice you did not answer my question. I'll ask again: when you say = "proven guilty" what exactly do you mean? >=20 > I see you are going to nitpick here. So let clarify it. When we're talking about banning people as a result of their actions, = we'd better be clear on the details, don't you think? > If there is a clear set of evidences that someone harassed, insulted, = attacked another person then it fits this definition. What to you would be "a clear set of evidences"? (If you have examples = of actual occurrences, that would be better than building hypotheticals, = and probably easier.) > Please keep in mind than harassment, attacks or insults have nothing = to do with opinions. Unfortunately, too many people confuse "argument" with "harassment", and = "disagreement" with "attacks", and "observations" as "insults." So I'd = like to hear first what "clear evidence" means to you. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php