Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90288 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72535 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2016 17:58:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2016 17:58:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.181 mail-ob0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.181] ([209.85.214.181:34477] helo=mail-ob0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/9A-21405-837AE865 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 12:58:17 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wp13so197866841obc.1 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:58:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=v9T15mtL59EQCP3XTKquXN34Mla3jhhAyjnL9QEDN5s=; b=YPw5eWIuVPOPuWTbzdogiBBiiNxt3ktDqCupKACqKgQLqK5RDtJ4LOD61oOk5beozK 3b4CUkbdgDmg86G8cZfH3JRiZK0IPXwvWHjzLpc6+EaYSPV2YhnkRX8CCDGjVo/eQ5Vz X+QNjk0rlZ4vpkfJqW0UR+z+Uirz6eal1Hyrdm9Kl/fwf7xtrr4Dd+yaBZ7U7Ju6+Bed 1I3Su2B+I33G9bAYHGMc7bmnUvzly2ya63tQ2XVc1sOxNeKYeY4LaSKRlbvUhjKctvv6 9/5xuGn6xQBUIlA+ufGkZqZ8SCyPGlo/vvr+wBesmFTndENKTY461gmmZ/xjHq9DRi4l Jisw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.200.162 with SMTP id jt2mr2987367obc.55.1452189493464; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.64.136 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.64.136 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:58:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <568E9D01.1020808@gmail.com> References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> <568D7C5D.9020405@php.net> <1e6a13607a3a1c8b20a4649f8a5ef767@mail.gmail.com> <3AB5AA82-4F17-40C3-B8B5-33697A8DBEC2@gmail.com> <568E9D01.1020808@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 00:58:11 +0700 Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Anthony Ferrara , "Paul M. Jones" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c23930e795d30528c236fb Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --001a11c23930e795d30528c236fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Jan 8, 2016 12:15 AM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > > If someone starts to put bad pressure on another person (harassment, > > insults, personal attacks, etc) trying to make this person either > > abandon an idea, RFC or even to force this person to leave the > > project, the attacker will most likely use non php.net's channel. > > If somebody harasses the other person on Twitter, how exactly banning > this person from internals list is going to make that stop? > > > Saying that we "do not care" because it does not happen inside php.net > > would be very hypocrite and makes the CoC totally useless.I agree it > > That assumes all the value of CoC lies exclusively in its punitive > power. I though we are past that and all agreed that it is not the case. I disagree. But to just look in the other direction because an event happened outside php.net will be like "ooh you have been bad here, but no biggie, nothing will happen to you here ". Is it what you suggest? And again, keeping in mind that these will be extreme cases, it is still important to handle them. And to ignore them has not something I could consider as a good thing. --001a11c23930e795d30528c236fb--