Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90282 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60857 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2016 17:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2016 17:31:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.49 mail-pa0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.49] ([209.85.220.49:35195] helo=mail-pa0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 60/28-21405-301AE865 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 12:31:48 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ho8so2791982pac.2 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:31:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PQ3Jm+TdANnfbPfdO1HBXlFMp6gyANzF9ur11mkNxag=; b=h5TR/dFKrTylD41C3E8w+kvLnKRbt4xh1lF8aiMArs5LsjheGFBKE2jEv/2Bced1ad vqrq1/NI68PGZ/lrRgCPMoI3HhoJvTS6S4OmjtpmeSBdViG8SdDGvXukFYpX4jK9Bsv3 E8DXzfEa0GYASzte7tORsIcP3tG0YLXECi6DVwx8fyAnBKExDd69sx0zg2hQ3U5XDyfc XveR0eRzHi1PoEGYzqoIjDvel/+q1BFXDOBGtKQXU+/nBOWwrdU+Nb12WhWITMoL7ePD ycgofVFaXyu3RYtGLpHF+DU2JZ/O876mDpMPBiXanx1mxHGpHCeyzL7/MJKU6lCfpQXR PPAw== X-Received: by 10.66.158.129 with SMTP id wu1mr153315722pab.146.1452187903854; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.local ([12.97.215.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xi8sm159967881pab.9.2016.01.07.09.31.42 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:31:43 -0800 (PST) To: PHP internals References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> <568D7C5D.9020405@php.net> <1e6a13607a3a1c8b20a4649f8a5ef767@mail.gmail.com> <3AB5AA82-4F17-40C3-B8B5-33697A8DBEC2@gmail.com> <32EC26D7-5014-40B3-8DCF-8A6F33A0B560@gohearsay.com> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <568EA0FC.4070000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:31:40 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32EC26D7-5014-40B3-8DCF-8A6F33A0B560@gohearsay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! >> We are committed to evaluating contributions within project >> channels without regard to the contributor's experience, >> ability, identity, body, religion, politics, or activity >> outside of project channels. This makes sense. I would not object to adding the positive values stuff, like in examples already cited, too. Except for the part where we talk about experience - this is just not true, when evaluating contribution we would definitely treat code from somebody who spent last 5 years digging into the engine and code from somebody who never contributed before at least somewhat differently (the latter would probably get more scrutiny). That's just a fact. That does not mean we would reject new contributors outright or subject them to different code standards, for example - but promising blanket "without regard" seems promising something we have no capability or intent to deliver. "Ability" is also ambiguous - I *think* I know what you mean there, but it may be also read as a promise that we will evaluate contributions regardless of contributor's ability to actually produce good code/text/whatever it is, which is obviously not true. >> Alternatively, if that's not specific enough, use this single sentence instead: I don't think we need to over-specify, that only leads to more rule lawyering ("I called her X, which is not on the list, so she has no right to feel insulted!"). -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com