Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90280 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58327 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2016 17:25:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2016 17:25:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=danack@basereality.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=danack@basereality.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain basereality.com from 209.85.160.179 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: danack@basereality.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.179 mail-yk0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.179] ([209.85.160.179:33571] helo=mail-yk0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/A7-21405-69F9E865 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 12:25:42 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f179.google.com with SMTP id k129so314629083yke.0 for ; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:25:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kWxr4dgGm49WLjwRoCVO/QTBjy5g17dLKhIs+OlIoXc=; b=HaK/j7ggdiVXuCWVlLFgA7VkQEaKR1RDOQchIbRD6lRMj65C9JP3fGKlHj6t8RRv++ X5gadKKaFFI6e4l1zulnN87bcSMMq5fJBhNRVfu7XrwUxDi15YR/oiCdm7pyoUmS0j1L 3m3J43gvM8yXdRkq+VUcHhRi+FYaQPMVIhSNaIE4AemFSleuT1CiLTLiiFO5ZFD/dTDs oYNVj8ZOdm2M4OsX8EpD9ZaeYBs+fARpNuaMCPJJNAUSzLAtdFhEyxWcOOICLUv1wP5E FWIWSKKnrkN4KpAaWvj+4Ps98lYXQoAgzhp2KDDj/E5j72dnleuV0Mk6WGiIiKux+Pri ylRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kWxr4dgGm49WLjwRoCVO/QTBjy5g17dLKhIs+OlIoXc=; b=DRzGIk1Z7uZLkma59nFNBiVz22Jm0WRGgbCsCaxwYZnszTXjD+YXC57//qGZ2QxcsD xzml/xu5K68yFnjSmbtfa/9qyWA9XTTp+ylJK9DjnJKoECL0JQleOd1r+GhSE5gOarcu RRnm/GhaLmi6beO+VH+L6n8VSmJmhqSBHrxw57sbEQv/Lsx1j7JHJQjJ+/dUsWkXsMaP 0kQ1j9NZjI3oVU/uPa97JNnDW1TItpAjxyUz2N9+ah/uaO6dzoEgtbuKCNIV+63lmmrO PGsKCWj48MU/n5L1MF0c79nNGECMoQQZyMnKldZOCwpgu+noMM6WYOTV8lmHPpcVYyvu pNYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnHHJpfMAsbkki08ReBb2djwAUW/S5KwCpzD6kvKZhgY7dCP/KNV21oOQL/dHH5ukaH5cytYGmctVe8/qpV1VZm17DW7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.210.66 with SMTP id u63mr78965783ywd.206.1452187539777; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.83.131 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2.99.233.57] In-Reply-To: <568E9D01.1020808@gmail.com> References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> <568D7C5D.9020405@php.net> <1e6a13607a3a1c8b20a4649f8a5ef767@mail.gmail.com> <3AB5AA82-4F17-40C3-B8B5-33697A8DBEC2@gmail.com> <568E9D01.1020808@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 17:25:39 +0000 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Pierre Joye , "Paul M. Jones" , PHP internals , Anthony Ferrara Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On 7 January 2016 at 17:14, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > If somebody harasses the other person on Twitter, how exactly banning > this person from internals list is going to make that stop? It doesn't. What it means is the other person can open their PHP-DEV email folder and know that there's not going to be any subtle crap from the person that is harassing waiting for them when they want to contribute to PHP. > I'm growing tired of this argument. We also do not know how many > contributors we may have lost because we do not sacrifice a goat monthly > to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, We can't know for sure. But what we can do is compare the ratio of women vs men who contribute to PHP internals, and think that maybe, just maybe, if a project is almost solely comprised of one gender, then possibly we've accidentally done some stuff that drives 50% of the population away. cheers Dan