Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90231 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3363 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 20:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 20:25:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.180 mail-ig0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.180] ([209.85.213.180:37165] helo=mail-ig0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8F/FE-21755-6387D865 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 15:25:26 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f180.google.com with SMTP id h5so1514207igh.0 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 12:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=e5B3DRBJYFQGKpY9urv5zPweKIrmhYyCabM76G7Maxc=; b=Q2qJ/G1097+nhYPG90NWZjFfz1PPTZaemAVn2/9aD24Eo6sVr06ffFo7gcj44UvINx Ei0l+/Za1iQvJIwcIbkhAXyZEtg+6IfzAd/0YTRITdzlXZyflLcu4tAlJuuva9tzBxJX d0aXnxkt+p9TW65NpYb8R71TyT9VhR3UpctzCInPWEx5LtpuhfNPIh0ghEg/mfQWSS00 fw2/7TQ/CdAkBcMc3UIKvfmbi4fbr4qVUQt3XI3iGc8aGWMSdVJZtH4PHE/jwTS9u1UL tkoGtVbWtIlgdoOTD/KdHreKlELEW3CmMZZ2LuMrXWBMBLL3qbSegveCVDGhckjEBgsH 3yGg== X-Received: by 10.50.109.167 with SMTP id ht7mr11256346igb.38.1452111924124; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 12:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronin.attlocal.net ([2602:306:bdf1:d380:5c7e:3e61:f715:563b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jc1sm3484720igb.7.2016.01.06.12.25.22 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Jan 2016 12:25:23 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 14:25:21 -0600 Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <3F20E9E6-8B53-43F0-B478-B22B92E999F9@gmail.com> References: <568D62F1.4020407@thefsb.org> To: Tom Worster X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 6, 2016, at 14:21, Tom Worster wrote: > > On 1/6/16, 2:35 PM, "Paul M. Jones" wrote: > >>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:54, Tom Worster wrote: >>> >>> I think it's perhaps too general to be of great use to us here but The >>> Code Manifesto is a good example of the positive approach. >>> https://github.com/kayladnls/code-manifesto/blob/master/README.md >> >> Agreed that it's too general, and while nicey-nice, it has key political >> phrases that make it as unsuitable as the Contributor Covenant. E.g.: "a >> space that is safe for all"; "arbitrary exclusion of a group of people" >> (including by ability too contribute?); and regarding comfort levels "if >> brought to your attention, heed it", etc. etc. > > That language isn't to my taste either. I don't propose The Code Manifesto > as a basis for a PHP document. I just wanted to show that you can flip > this around and try to effect positive change using the resources > available. Gotcha ... > I don't think PHP needs this CoC. ... and agreed. -- Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php