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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct
From: fsb@thefsb.org (Tom Worster)

On 1/6/16, 2:35 PM, "Paul M. Jones" <pmjones88@gmail.com> wrote:

>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:54, Tom Worster <fsb@thefsb.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I think it's perhaps too general to be of great use to us here but The
>>Code Manifesto is a good example of the positive approach.
>>https://github.com/kayladnls/code-manifesto/blob/master/README.md
>
>Agreed that it's too general, and while nicey-nice, it has key political
>phrases that make it as unsuitable as the Contributor Covenant. E.g.: "a
>space that is safe for all"; "arbitrary exclusion of a group of people"
>(including by ability too contribute?); and regarding comfort levels "if
>brought to your attention, heed it", etc. etc.

That language isn't to my taste either. I don't propose The Code Manifesto
as a basis for a PHP document. I just wanted to show that you can flip
this around and try to effect positive change using the resources
available.

Another thing that bothers me with the negative approach is that by
proscribing only egregious behavior that visible and incontrovertible, it
tacitly legitimizes the pervasive biases and discriminations that maintain
the status quo.

Take another well known example of the negative approach: sexual
discrimination legislation. It helps deter some kinds of bad behavior but
it also makes it easier for people to deny existence of the ordinary
every-day bias and discrimination many women deal with. I support sexual
discrimination legislation but I see its very existence as a kind of
punishment. It would be so much better if we did not need it.
Unfortunately, we do. By contrast, I don't think PHP needs this CoC.

Tom