Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90226 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92837 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 19:46:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 19:46:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.171 mail-io0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.171] ([209.85.223.171:35103] helo=mail-io0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A9/EC-21755-AFE6D865 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:46:02 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 77so197970048ioc.2 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:46:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Gi+6/iXzSXNBQAMNB7ABWJUPRfvKG5AVKmiIm1DNUgk=; b=NnwSghHDoBCt2rQwX/46AEmN/v15OBGkFtDugIzLCzOMLjQFnL9qWjKOWeyoXhoPKu ETSkYUic/ETabNTVRlQa/Vb3fU4oQ5kN0g3uGicczFYmpCgGoC92uebEJftbaOmPiXWF F5SX6y7FxjbI0gKjMGealNJMSQqric6mJILp28hixXYe5U5A2h+iCUmO4P0O0sVqvgEa Lp2bSFgVDlf+q8T3maULFU4vXKTykm1gBge6AShi1M9bVqni2+nefW15Zipf4eLdM5Km M8XusAX0HAuFWjJL3QepSEgcpWlmEcVFOgPsMkt56WPOmoyHFuAI1TmpRQV8kdURz2Vh TzBQ== X-Received: by 10.107.1.198 with SMTP id 189mr104987734iob.167.1452109559640; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronin.attlocal.net ([2602:306:bdf1:d380:5c7e:3e61:f715:563b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b11sm38703705ioe.31.2016.01.06.11.45.58 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:45:59 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:45:57 -0600 Cc: Andrea Faulds , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <5B9B954F-EB6C-41B2-B41F-41FB68DB641B@gmail.com> References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <6D.39.21755.3576D865@pb1.pair.com> <1AD1B991-A3E5-4D6C-A532-5F0FCCC2ED61@gmail.com> To: Ryan Pallas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 6, 2016, at 13:38, Ryan Pallas wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Paul M. Jones = wrote: >=20 > > On Jan 6, 2016, at 13:13, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > > Furthermore, if people think the CoC enforcement team have been too = heavy-handed with their application of the code, the team can be = replaced. >=20 > Easiest way to avoid that is not to have a continuing team. Instead, = randomly select of a response group on a per-incident basis should be = sufficient. Nobody gets selected for a second incident until everyone = has been selected once. >=20 > How would I bring to attention of someone a situation, if there is no = one picked to take those requests until after its been made? An excellent point. My first thought is to appoint or elect a continuing = "secretary" (probably a better name for that) to receive requests, and = then run the random-selection tool on each incoming notice. The = secretary position itself is not responsible for reviewing or resolving, = only receiving and assigning. This introduces some possibility of = picking favored assignees to particular responses, but even that might = be automated by having a bot respond to emails to a particular address. Again, not in favor of a COC at all in the first place, as noted in the = next quote: >> Of course, even better than that is not to have a COC in the first = place. The conflict-resolution document is an infinitely better starting = place. >=20 > I agree, a conflict resolution document and team seems infinitely = better. This team's job is to resolve things quietly and without further = incident, however if action may be required - its an open vote (as = previously suggested).=20 Right on. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php