Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90217 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 79485 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 19:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 19:24:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.181 mail-pf0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.181] ([209.85.192.181:34928] helo=mail-pf0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/F9-21755-4F96D865 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:24:37 -0500 Received: by mail-pf0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 78so246880049pfw.2 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:24:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WSIaGfNywZtTFw1IkO0hXBB+w9fT7y8KX49fVrRt7Dk=; b=ojwTeBnLO4wVmwPBx42dbCB/H6dA0s4kXQBp+bNq5km3+0T5z2c63czvlvIQZ2ZTB1 aUcsuBHAyZRfnRl1pZggeFPbmTFvT9uPm4NqeBwY5g6DtB8OWLTXTi6+065/s1V6FXJl jUt/8ryotKpbpn4wqHuxdDn8F6G3x9sR9ByqiS3OxGparwFaYa3J1yPAmFwr0kJuYGKU +9xX40FbaFmRx7Ucfcj1JV2D7Bno+z/iDk6nzIp6oLSsT2/VAoO2aEOTLL2+3Lp0pAnr gNhAPf9QgQu8GqYHzFOvXnjxpC7vrDjGtUsbbqBM+my6+qlKjtzxIvJ5kQMnJVT8+mXG JAiA== X-Received: by 10.98.76.24 with SMTP id z24mr123303201pfa.148.1452108273640; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:304:cdc2:e5f0:556:9f3:56bd:73da? ([2602:304:cdc2:e5f0:556:9f3:56bd:73da]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u14sm137240108pfi.58.2016.01.06.11.24.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:24:32 -0800 (PST) To: Sara Golemon , =?UTF-8?Q?Fran=c3=a7ois_Laupretre?= References: <568C9ED7.30504@gmail.com> <568D4220.3050309@php.net> Cc: Anthony Ferrara , "internals@lists.php.net" X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <568D69EE.4000209@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 11:24:30 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > I'm glad you brought this back up, but you seem to have remembered a > few things incorrectly. And this is a good example why information from both sides is essential. Everybody has their own story, and human memory is unbelievably faulty even with the best of intentions. When some excitement is added up, people can honestly believe completely opposite things happened. That is why these things are so complicated, and secretiveness would make it even more. > Third, purely for the sake of argument, let's say I *had* made some > formal complaint. That accusation would have been confined to the > response team, you, and I. Ask yourself if you prefer a small > audience for an easily defensible accusation, or a large one. I would > prefer a small audience. Here I agree - that's why I asked that if there is no action to be taken, there would not be requirement to report anything (summarized anonymized monthly/quartely stats is fine of course). That changes if there is to be an action (not this case obviously). -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com