Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90202 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46682 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 16:34:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 16:34:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=francois@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=francois@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 212.27.42.2 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: francois@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.27.42.2 smtp2-g21.free.fr Received: from [212.27.42.2] ([212.27.42.2:28336] helo=smtp2-g21.free.fr) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B7/C3-21755-F224D865 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:34:55 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.240.16.115]) (Authenticated sender: flaupretre@free.fr) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E05CB4B0160; Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:33:51 +0100 (CET) To: Anthony Ferrara , Stanislav Malyshev References: <568C9ED7.30504@gmail.com> Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Message-ID: <568D4220.3050309@php.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:34:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 160106-0, 06/01/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: francois@php.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Fran=c3=a7ois_Laupretre?=) Hi, Le 06/01/2016 16:21, Anthony Ferrara a écrit : > I have received no less than 4 direct threats of violence that were directly due to my involvement > with the Scalar Type Declarations RFC. I'm surprised it went to that point but I'm glad you're talking about the STH saga, because this is a good example, still fresh in memories. So, let's analyze what happened when I was accused of 'sabotage' and 'strong-arming' because I had sent a supposedly offending mail to Sara. In my reply, I published the mail in question so that everyone could judge by itself whether it was offending or not. I'm glad we didn't have a PHP official SJW team because it would have probably denied me the right to publish the message, for confidentiality reasons. So, instead of putting the case in the public space where everyone could see that the accusation was highly exagerated, I would have been judged by 5 people who could have banned me on subjective matters (let's not underestimate cultural differences here). So, I'm all for a mediation team, but no sanction, even temporary, without a public vote. Regards François