Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90190 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7036 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 09:28:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 09:28:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.50 mail-wm0-f50.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.50] ([74.125.82.50:35931] helo=mail-wm0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EE/CD-21755-F2EDC865 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 04:28:16 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l65so52347616wmf.1 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 01:28:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:from:date:to :message-id; bh=wHZTScZkIbR9MSrlAf8T0/5VatV2zanDPUq103o6SPU=; b=o1v1I+ERlmBk6BcXG/n3Gt/7Oz01CzHgIFT3Dsv4ZBmds4vCvqo1IU/zufRVjppi+R VfWQTkeHs6rLil+UIYJiMak+juVLRqpoQNwARJ0Kuw6qS7F2+AQeDRCr1OH3gsVVx9UN GTtYyK2OYjpG2Cb//++0x5F1TIERyyolJAvXpnAo9BRb5pbu3SmBY2mO6ANJ8Vb7cICj eIyG9nWX95f5NCxfb6Lyis7nfO/kbTLCSkhPoWowL5nITRSe8K/2sr4ssX0dwC/Fg1/A qBZPxIL1uZbL0+fyAryA4ex2DkYLYZ2cOvEocnrbM2N/pYFnI+8AE300roWSVznzyH8d IHgw== X-Received: by 10.195.18.5 with SMTP id gi5mr3127714wjd.167.1452072492967; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 01:28:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from android-c0c105534eccd9bf.default ([2.31.24.87]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jo6sm95241974wjb.48.2016.01.06.01.28.11 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jan 2016 01:28:12 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <407B6C6C-033F-476B-A049-BE248211755B@gmail.com> References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <568C53D6.3060800@garfieldtech.com> <407B6C6C-033F-476B-A049-BE248211755B@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 09:28:03 +0000 To: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <094E9F3C-B8B6-424B-BCF6-D0021A910266@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 6 January 2016 02:13:53 GMT, "Paul M. Jones" wrote: > >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 17:37, Larry Garfield >wrote: >> >>> Yes, that is an accurate summary of my position. >> >> It is also an inaccurate summary of your statements on this list to >date, as well as elsewhere, which have been accusatory, vitriolic, >insulting, and hyperbolic. > >When speech-policing is proposed without irony, and welcomed with >applause, I respond correctly: with scorn and contempt, as is deserved. You state this like some kind of self-evident truth. Understand that not everybody agrees with you, and scorn is not generally something that wins people round to your argument. > The "real and legitimate issues" can be addressed without >one, perhaps with the "conflict resolution" document you referenced. It >is orders of magnitude more reasonable Ah, some constructive suggestions. More of this please. >and observably less fascist And, we're immediately back to the unnecessarily combative language. Calling the proposal "fascist" and "horrific" is really unnecessary, and just undermines your position by making you seem like an extremist rather than a concerned party with a contribution to make. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]