Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90187 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91780 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 06:42:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 06:42:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=bishop.bettini@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=bishop.bettini@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bishop.bettini@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.43 mail-wm0-f43.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.43] ([74.125.82.43:34009] helo=mail-wm0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DD/9B-21755-747BC865 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2016 01:42:15 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u188so49026337wmu.1 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 22:42:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=sZZ++2We7F74WemOs474voTrID0omtKP611hVi5wLXU=; b=skFU9XEDcTmg1l7O6NLGLiDXk9i23AI7ihgzL0ySTxoqNOUNe2i4MY3GEBfqJBpvyB AGS5uWE1tF7u66rDDVaPOWDsMQDIvNFOWazl/Vn6ij88tlgqPEeSI2id7znF++VrZ3vR jvv8fcuywWBuBfxAle4Oll2MQr6OXahLOzrRpEJBgLA8aCyQSMPDKT3+aAjrOJIsKWA7 fNit+xRFFgpfLVTqnm6te5fP3OQCtWkgq34T0+iZn2aXhU0KPKV+xnH98AEDuQAY+FnL KZ6jl5HM3dSvZ9fJ6VFlpUmbNCw0mBD9LDJxkFtnKQhieXYtcnqnQtDKF72tCpjLtDek 2Q2Q== X-Received: by 10.194.9.42 with SMTP id w10mr66881023wja.159.1452062532518; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 22:42:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: bishop@php.net Sender: bishop.bettini@gmail.com Received: by 10.194.45.230 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 22:41:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 01:41:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: qMwIJrxIIM1KKmxEloyNS0CWqUk Message-ID: To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" , Paul Jones , Joe Watkins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b4504967148e20528a4a766 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: bishop@php.net (Bishop Bettini) --047d7b4504967148e20528a4a766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 HI Anthony, On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Bishop Bettini wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Anthony Ferrara > wrote: > >> >> I have created a new RFC for the PHP Project to adopt the Contributor >> Covenant as the official Code of Conduct for the project >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/adopt-code-of-conduct >> >> Let me know what you think or if there are any concerns >> > > Thanks for bringing this to the table, Anthony. I am +1 because, while > we're diverse on some axes, we are startlingly alike in others > . > I remain committed to the RFC ideal, but the arguments presented have swayed me: I cannot support the RFC as written in v0.3. Generally, I reject language condensing authority to a small subset of individuals and granting rights to act on their limited opinion. Specifically, the proposed text of paragraphs 4, 5, 7, and 9 do just that. I am happy to discuss in detail, but honestly I don't think that will move us closer to consensus. I think simplification is needed. Let's start with our values before we start talking about a protocol for accusations. After all, does it matter how we deal with accusations if we can't agree on core values? And on that note, I'd like to suggest the Code Manifesto as a starting point for our values statement: http://codemanifesto.com/ Sincerely, bishop --047d7b4504967148e20528a4a766--