Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90181 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65722 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2016 02:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2016 02:13:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.181 mail-ig0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.181] ([209.85.213.181:37189] helo=mail-ig0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 70/F7-21755-5687C865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 21:13:58 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id to18so24031122igc.0 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 18:13:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Ce00/S46GqaSr9WliGTFKabOASgX9InZ9MIQpq0t6H8=; b=eYzligpbXddu3G7AB+F8iF11GzwCdNi75m0kFq1DSHrPcXPNOa/xRw8+eExnT8+H7V g/azwGWGNxFLdwG9wkaCrX8uiw0hpAFJLyHIZbwFXDPJKfnHmfDHfhhnhvZsHtjyqDce UCnQQYD3SKRpGkKyebg2um5qXh8pamUbqp7QFJcTVx32E5kqj0NGwX89gN4MJmySv5Lp rr3dup9ZH+UOyzz6JflVCQZQ+HPIR/RVqgYOqMRqjaE63d1iNfWlzWqH6pN8E4cum3V+ G5cfW94zPWdX+Hl0aNAR5zazLWCd+emOOcX8DeJJcRKtWqPB1J02kDzI3z7Wu/AZryu1 swZA== X-Received: by 10.50.160.42 with SMTP id xh10mr6992912igb.84.1452046435492; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 18:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:bdf1:d380:d891:6650:a2f4:fb0e? ([2602:306:bdf1:d380:d891:6650:a2f4:fb0e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s5sm2484988igg.1.2016.01.05.18.13.54 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Jan 2016 18:13:54 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: <568C53D6.3060800@garfieldtech.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:13:53 -0600 Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <407B6C6C-033F-476B-A049-BE248211755B@gmail.com> References: <66E04ACF-7363-4E47-BFFD-E380E5B1EA23@gmail.com> <568C53D6.3060800@garfieldtech.com> To: Larry Garfield X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 5, 2016, at 17:37, Larry Garfield = wrote: >=20 >> Yes, that is an accurate summary of my position. >=20 > It is also an inaccurate summary of your statements on this list to = date, as well as elsewhere, which have been accusatory, vitriolic, = insulting, and hyperbolic. When speech-policing is proposed without irony, and welcomed with = applause, I respond correctly: with scorn and contempt, as is deserved. > There are real and legitimate issues in the IT world that need to be = addressed, and a good CoC, fairly-enforced, is one useful tool in doing = so. Like rainbows and ponies, "a good CoC, fairly-enforced" is an imaginary = creature. The "real and legitimate issues" can be addressed without one, = perhaps with the "conflict resolution" document you referenced. It is = orders of magnitude more reasonable, and observably less fascist in its = binding-together of the personal, political, and project. It still = needs work but it's a better starting point than the horrific = Contributor Covenant. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php