Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90160 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23000 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 22:21:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 22:21:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nate.abele@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nate.abele@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nate.abele@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.176 mail-qk0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.176] ([209.85.220.176:33415] helo=mail-qk0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 28/00-21755-6F14C865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:21:42 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p186so66022931qke.0 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:21:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=puf8Ia30pTtHhSglpDiY/ky9xvAkwKpspu54Ez9LIQM=; b=0RjLb9b2EUrEji+Z4DOz54oF2lf+NDtVw0ZuyFRWLqtoK6TDVF0jwRAxrcWwxDAgdb X95YsAygYv6uRkaHJaeH5NQUmTwo24Gs6z/YFqrGqybAwKdUhHD9Zj3EAX76Sxxjackw c2LcbIWFpmUPk4xFi0ZTN4PZhQ3Lxe1gujkPVwibpEnJQdDs7gQEVreqTCzHOh/jKV9C 6g2LKX+0TNVlMef3BDR47KXjEARtWzyGOCz2/Pk7MeNS4kdOb74dBbwBOJ9qewP0t6YK q2AZKbTRaC3rCD8RxmGBov6KMrc4cV7Id/YcDV3k9wlYpg/tBkY+T0D7J38RCjCS3+kT /y0A== X-Received: by 10.55.23.170 with SMTP id 42mr124344044qkx.64.1452032499661; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (pool-71-175-10-138.phlapa.fios.verizon.net. [71.175.10.138]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t1sm43138154qki.44.2016.01.05.14.21.37 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:21:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:21:37 -0500 To: rowan.collins@gmail.com Cc: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: X-Mailer: sparrow 1.6.4 (build 1178) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="568c41f1_6ceaf087_11e93" Subject: Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: nate.abele@gmail.com (Nate Abele) --568c41f1_6ceaf087_11e93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Rowan, =20 I don=E2=80=99t presume to speak for Paul, but I don=E2=80=99t think the = point is that any particular person involved in this discussion is presum= ed to have a political intent, rather that CoCs themselves (the Contribut= or Covenant in particular), and the people typically agitating for them, = come from a place of hyper-politicization. Exhibit A: https://github.com/CoralineAda/contributor=5Fcovenant/commit/0= e927bc01614d6b0de021a314dbe95e7dfcc7bb9=23diff-eacf331f0ffc35d4b482f1d15a= 887d3bL17 Exhibit B: https://archive.is/dgilk (the threatening language at the end = is particularly chilling) I think most reasonable people can agree that these kinds of derailing co= nversations are far more toxic than any knock-on effects of not having a = CoC in the first place. - Nate --568c41f1_6ceaf087_11e93--