Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90156 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16378 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 22:05:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 22:05:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ircmaxell@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ircmaxell@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ircmaxell@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.50 mail-wm0-f50.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.50] ([74.125.82.50:33328] helo=mail-wm0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9F/0A-12097-31E3C865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 17:05:08 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f50.google.com with SMTP id f206so39682668wmf.0 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:05:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=51GBcXDtT367WY3jB12xBu9YvUF1DlirbxU0m1mmSAM=; b=HC0r3eOK4QjHofp494uPloHchgYBqHgBzYZxdTZ+RrNvNTfCE1TLQ1Vt2/SfSLHYZt M5tPEzvWhFP6izcVinJNlMCSXUj+hbQglh3l5vLaVMsujtD489oG9ntQlqFpqeG6GR+K nR9PxE5x/4RZXMx5k1132daUSZf5Gwh3Kh8Pqm08uw3p8ClBThP9AfsW9xCbh0R4b/Wq LKzD9zKi6W0wUhCxdetDfSnQjLZR7+mV1kbnYvlH7NgOBOQPfCYdt6XGyXqT8BIhfDND pLbsFMHHf+NUV4aDmnOb7mjq4OGBaxj5prb01oETsktVug0pgmzARZz0qSKekrPKRIad 2//A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.52.68 with SMTP id r4mr99343092wjo.8.1452031505250; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.11.77 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 14:05:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:05:04 -0500 Message-ID: To: Chase Peeler Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: ircmaxell@gmail.com (Anthony Ferrara) Chase, On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Chase Peeler wrote: > While overall I tend to agree with Paul on the concept of a CoC, I don't > think that precludes the ability to offer suggestions. It's to everyone's > advantage to make sure that if we do adopt a CoC, we adopt the best one > possible. > > Obviously one of the biggest fears is unjust treatment of the accused. The > thing that is most likely to lead to that would be pre-existing personal > biases towards the accused (or in favor of the accuser) by a member of the > committee. Why not require that at least one member come from outside the > PHP community all together. I don't know how feasible that really is, but > assuming it is, it's probably the best way to ensure that there is at least > one person that is more likely to be as unbiased as possible. > > That member could be voted on like all the other members, or, due to the > fact that voters are hopefully less familiar with such candidates, be > appointed by the elected members of the committee. > > Obviously it's not perfect and still allows the possibility of abuse, but > you reach the point where such abuses almost require a coordinated > conspiracy. Thanks for the suggestion! So that would mean there would be 3 "required seats": * PHP-SRC karma * PHP-DOCs karma * no karma and then 2 "arbitrary" seats. I like the idea overall, but would very much like to hear other's feedback prior to adding that. Thanks! Anthony