Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90154 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11620 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 21:36:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 21:36:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:45704] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BF/39-12097-9573C865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:36:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 159E4E20F0; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:36:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 21:36:21 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: Sara Golemon cc: Zeev Suraski , Michael Heap , Junade Ali , PHP internals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecation of the Error Control Operator (@ symbol) From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > >> From: Derick Rethans [mailto:derick@php.net] > >> That's going to mean an INI setting.. that hosters could abuse. > >> Having an INI setting like this as part of core is IMO not a great idea. > > > I honestly don't understand why that's a bad idea. There are a LOT of > settings that hosters could abuse, but as a general rule they don't, > because it breaks client apps and clients leave. > > A hoster could just as easily install XDebug and turn that setting on. > Are they doing that? > > Or are you, Derick Rethans, suggesting that installing XDebug is a bad idea? ;) On a production environment, certainly not a good idea. cheers, Derick