Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90130 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64528 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 19:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 19:18:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.41 mail-wm0-f41.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.41] ([74.125.82.41:37994] helo=mail-wm0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 03/DF-12097-6071C865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:18:30 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id b14so44236095wmb.1 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:18:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=oGW5L7hQFhcOxeCDlo12PWryEQjGzZtRJt4d4xV22Zg=; b=nvXXLymIkPmIRHGnBWQBZkSzOGoasnKG4G/Z7pkPFIplC04lNETOKdosH3PgelH1jT qTpamUY0Vpbzy26T3bmjX9otWmVQm7oQ2C68GyYo0gBbHs2SrV9OVXJaxO36q6o2DL2x KJ4zc24h8XFy75kuKGqbnnngoeeHMX1KPT4mz9fKMrBqE7RinsNsjGV/k9LEzuhW91qh 2a3r+nhOZDwq2iEriOfjJHIOZK6KJWwI9ri22XrPpFWpWhEFgUGzTEeulUr1TvcBVTP7 JainFBENDy3rGu7ofWhu++kulNuUCt88FGjpalEnUqwOOA7ICx08zAsdDLBNm5+0GjaD dtyg== X-Received: by 10.194.205.103 with SMTP id lf7mr101588676wjc.147.1452021508063; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.137] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 198sm4958304wml.22.2016.01.05.11.18.26 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:18:27 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> <568B210A.9050103@gmail.com> <63D5D55E-76A0-4550-97E8-98CC7DE9DDD3@gmail.com> <1B9C4242-D4F4-4892-B4AF-90E3C073C09A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <568C16A7.7090305@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:16:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1B9C4242-D4F4-4892-B4AF-90E3C073C09A@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090404070101060402070803" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) --------------090404070101060402070803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul M. Jones wrote on 05/01/2016 16:03: > It's a*political* action designed with a*political* intent Please stop assuming that everybody has a hidden agenda at odds with their public statements, and claiming that you somehow know that the negative possibilities of this policy are deliberately in service of its secret aim, rather than unintended consequences of its stated aim. If you dislike the details of this proposal, that is fine, and you can explain what you don't like about it, and what you would prefer instead - e.g. a "be nice" policy without explicit teeth, or total anarchy and the right to insult, threaten, and bully whoever you choose because you honestly believe that "free speech" trumps all other moral and pragmatic considerations. Bear in mind you will be expected to defend that position, and that people have the right to disagree with you, and attempt to find common ground and compromises. That's how conversations work. If all you're doing is trolling the group because you think being rude on a thread about good conduct is funny, please go do it on 4chan or reddit or something. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP] --------------090404070101060402070803--