Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90108 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16314 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 16:14:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=scott@paragonie.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=scott@paragonie.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain paragonie.com from 209.85.217.179 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: scott@paragonie.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.179 mail-lb0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.179] ([209.85.217.179:34246] helo=mail-lb0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/27-12097-9DBEB865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:14:17 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id pv2so192583005lbb.1 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 08:14:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paragonie-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mcf/qWHwkvITY1T2Bcbw/zcov41gTp90tPydq0FvmHA=; b=VMdSmslBq1LI8znNDF4ZfrpdWEFzhFiOcesSVi6eVTOI+A8GPuENxIgAk7caeTRCd/ tQn0AhegIayYdbXmv2uBsrAIxeDxLIa7x8xltEhYl8WPnjPsmasPjo7iTTRW+mxU7zJQ qsHL3w7MhfhFs6wboBK1obSON7zCGu7SoDL3csboe94tSimsdUIJkMXNrarnEwYVhJUH 8Afk0F0bsxigx6qOrcRovlBCOmVBJr+mW+285G6K2GMKbMqLipLv1kKqlQS83JiqRdW3 rKadK1Om5j+dslXf7cl9lW4jG0xu2FukwvojHNjGvxnJhdBIuZLjAynOaPykJ+IllspB dpPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mcf/qWHwkvITY1T2Bcbw/zcov41gTp90tPydq0FvmHA=; b=dQe6G++U3p6EsrvLajCkGOtV1sH7VntItGm/21zGyvTsxp0ITTyod53Z0s3mdvZDCi 8HtJcTUMFk4ouc1DgiFFs5eteYhSnqZcIF26qEgTz/TO+7WwFTRpaPZVaEUUq6sK1L40 QZ9LnGSw2G06yby8g6XLpfnjOtDsvFlxiUABHVKZMA9ycDrDjUL8IVd2evNNiLskG0UL wEOeAM+MRehgRIXeOippym30PV78DNUEFLj7J2hVQtpQiSw9WBblSAkwCEJydTs/ZEJi vbKHP+sNpAD2pjqYU1NUkE+ZRCwbuOVRs6JmMPyBamSRA38fFKeqH4bWmeC3z9OJxSkT x2Lw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlbkcNMxwBRqWUwogdSW2z2E9DFXc43h4njFSbLxeITuNbD8deo+JBMAXYbYPuMkyR4kBuckCvrrArhzVeaQxTT8QvDjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.132.66 with SMTP id os2mr21487472lbb.111.1452010453984; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.160.13 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <568BEA8E.4060004@lange.demon.co.uk> References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> <568BD0CA.7040909@php.net> <568BE845.2090102@php.net> <568BEA8E.4060004@lange.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 11:14:13 -0500 Message-ID: To: Mark Baker Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: scott@paragonie.com (Scott Arciszewski) On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Mark Baker wrote: > On 05/01/2016 15:59, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre wrote: >> >> >> Anyway, I don't say that it cannot happen, I just say that, AFAIK, we >> never got such concerns in the PHP community. So, maybe we should go the >> 'politically-correct' way but I'm afraid that's just a waste of time or,= as >> Stas said, a solution for no problem. >> > How do you know that you haven't got problems already? It may well be tha= t > people are put off from joining internals precisely because they have > nothing to tell them the environment won't be hostile toward them, and > there's been enough adverse publicity in the past about how "toxic" > internals is, and enough adverse publicity about other Open Source groups > that are abusive.... but you'd never know how many people wanted to > contribute but were put off... Having a public CoC is a way of telling > potential supporters/contributors who are thinking about getting involved > that they can do so without needing to worry about abuse. > > -- > Mark Baker > > _________ > |. \ \-3 > |_J_/ PHP | > || | __ | > || |m| |m| > > I LOVE PHP > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > Hi all, Even if there are no incidencts where a CoC is needed, after seeing today's Reddit thread, I'm convinced it's only a matter of time. https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/3zhapd/rfc_adopt_code_of_conduct Just my $0.02 Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises