Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90070 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21046 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 05:50:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 05:50:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.215.68 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.68 mail-lf0-f68.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.68] ([209.85.215.68:36480] helo=mail-lf0-f68.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 36/16-24214-4B95B865 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:50:45 -0500 Received: by mail-lf0-f68.google.com with SMTP id p203so29457765lfa.3 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:50:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=golemon-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b/yAajcETvHYlBnUfR9MV33Da9YBrnHwRKrF1R6fNUw=; b=Bh4tl0alRzc/r7FVf8l1FiNDydjXrC/DCf+vKfcNJWHSkAtTF1YN09g+rjfhdRpXyC GMcqBYXAzFqNrunPmcV7yCu/7eq0vGXBbjNfK32pOuOoNSnn8P0f+DybXEfUJB0Pi5rh roWl6sGPFNZAthpIxQZIsAshiaERlvYkgotALz2t3p+/PqDpE99Sla1nVnwOk8BQ6i49 36UovssZput7L9fakuJy/2QE7QO7JK+HmIoeS9u+GE9he+qkh2VH0JI7kyAcaPNoxgYf /n3blcrPfbHPVVGbtSHjhd6B6T8Y913e62WUiT4ZgXBsCDDaFIwFsON9FNBliu9urA/v Db8g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b/yAajcETvHYlBnUfR9MV33Da9YBrnHwRKrF1R6fNUw=; b=kzi0DLfZECleZdyOORmLB2kbNag2r6IyUtTHySlpnNL5sfL8C44hi+L0CcwAP+HH+P 3CMvPvbRP8wdq9euf4RQuW1pfjNIyx+aAENASqlg1lRpluzlmQi/BLdfmWgC1Sce8PWf NY0aagJoNurVdjWq46AlnBEOM3Ddh1PaVhEmKcGz7MRK0KqWGMWa73vY5wt6nzDT5t7e mtAlSz5isDrcslZ7OFCo1hC8x2K06/GR5oRB2nCliRotvwsNtUyzqF7HMCZcLOdBn5yc qyrSWM07l6fEtQFAI27tygllO/SyQ5CIE7xmLQOmC2D1RxZUJCbDFAtsW+99nWVOibZA oD8w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk4jGsKjShZ+84hJ7OCEv0WOkyPHn0Vs5AKvAubUjP3ig2u9Q3JAT40eOsmmeMxnTIoEfip4deAUPJwFdvuZZN0FoirwQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.65.5 with SMTP id o5mr23533596lfa.60.1451973041705; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:50:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.112.37.44 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 21:50:41 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [107.198.91.68] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 21:50:41 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a8N44YVZ8fqXuyDeX4DFhHOY-j4 Message-ID: To: Junade Ali Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Deprecation of the Error Control Operator (@ symbol) From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Junade Ali wrote: >> I am looking to submit an RFC in order to remove the error suppression >> operator in PHP, namely the @ symbol. >> > Forwarding a suggestion twitter/@Beryllium9: > > How about a global "disable error suppression" setting? That way a > project lead could enforce it for their codebase (and guarantee that > devs "aren't lazy"), but PHP doesn't lose its pragmatism? > And to add to that, we have mechanisms to allow settings to be dialed one way but not another, so this could be made so that you can always re-enable suppressed errors, but you can never re-hide them. (open_basedir does something similar) -Sara